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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    That is incorrect.

    When debating, and you can share this with the rest of the sophomores, you are NEVER going to change the mind of the person you are debating, your comments should ALWAYS be directed toward the education and edification of the audience, whatever it is.

    No charge.
    so your audience is who exactly? children? maybe you should throw a few pants on fire lines to truly hit it home with your intended audience. Maybe an "i'm butter, your glue" line to really knock it out of the park.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    I had voted for a Democrat exactly once in my whole life: her only opposition in the race for a city council seat was a loony Green who would strip half naked and bodily prevent the veterinary service people from 'bothering' the nesting Canada geese on the banks of the Charles River. That was, like, fifteen years ago.
    How hot was this "loony Green?" If hot, my only objection would be if she only stripped half naked


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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What is going on in the Republican party!?!
    Well, if you are unfamiliar with Rand you should know he is the son of Ron Paul. Neither are known for towing the party line. I think its refreshing to see a Republican approach this issue rationally.
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    How hot was this "loony Green?" If hot, my only objection would be if she only stripped half naked
    Well, I had voted against HIM - in all his fifty-ish, seriously overweight, radically undergroomed glory (Cambridge, MA is somethinh special, in every way, I'm tellin' ya....)

    Oops.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Isn't Rand Paul a Libertarian? I don't think Libertarians are against legal immigration.

    Are they?
    I dont think there blanket answer on this. It seems split.
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Didn't Reagan give amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants in the 80s?

    WAS HE A RINO TOO !?!?

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by StringBean View Post
    Didn't Reagan give amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants in the 80s?

    WAS HE A RINO TOO !?!?
    No, Reagan made the mistake of thinking the Liberal Congress would uphold their concurrent promise to secure the border if he gave the illegals amnesty. He did, they didn't, which is why we are now overrun with Mexicans.

    Additionally, in the election immediately after Reagan provided amnesty, less Hispanics voted for Reagan than before amnesty. This is important to illustrate that amnesty will NOT get Mexican votes. They are lifetime dependents who believe in the largess of big government over self actualization.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status - The Washington Post

    What is going on in the Republican party!?! I feel like this is going to divide the party even more. Cant wait to see what happens from here.[/FONT][/COLOR]
    I'm sick of the pandering in politics...

    Illegal aliens should be deported. If they want to be US citizens then they can get in line. Oh yeah I forgot, the majority of illegal aliens use the US for monetary gain - they could give a rats ass about anything other than that. The US to them is a convenient source of income. Most aren't here for freedom or liberty - at least not the ones from Mexico - they're here to make money and their allegiance is to Mexico - that's why they fly the Mexican flag. They don't care this is a honey hole to them.

    Obviously there are plenty of illegals here who came from horrible places and are here for safety, opportunity and freedom. However those same people WANT to be US citizens and WANT to live the "American dream" (which is incorrect language considering everyone in North or South America is an "American")....

    It also chaps my ass that there are a ton of people waiting in line to come to the US and want to do it the legal way while others just cut in line and they get sympathy for that?

    If we're just going to give citizenship to a bunch of line-cutting illegal clowns than what is the point of going through the normal procedure??? symbolic patriotism?

    So basically if an illegal wants to use the US for money that is perfectly fine, but if you're immigrating to the US for US patriotic reasons and you respect our laws you get screwed...

    Can't say I'm shocked...

    Oh but I forgot illegals can vote so they need to be pandered to for their votes..

    What a ****ing system we have.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    No, Reagan made the mistake of thinking the Liberal Congress would uphold their concurrent promise to secure the border if he gave the illegals amnesty. He did, they didn't, which is why we are now overrun with Mexicans.

    Additionally, in the election immediately after Reagan provided amnesty, less Hispanics voted for Reagan than before amnesty. This is important to illustrate that amnesty will NOT get Mexican votes. They are lifetime dependents who believe in the largess of big government over self actualization.
    Amnesty is amnesty. Reagan was a RINO.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I'm sick of the pandering in politics...

    Illegal aliens should be deported. If they want to be US citizens then they can get in line. Oh yeah I forgot, the majority of illegal aliens use the US for monetary gain - they could give a rats ass about anything other than that. The US to them is a convenient source of income. Most aren't here for freedom or liberty - at least not the ones from Mexico - they're here to make money and their allegiance is to Mexico - that's why they fly the Mexican flag. They don't care this is a honey hole to them.

    Obviously there are plenty of illegals here who came from horrible places and are here for safety, opportunity and freedom. However those same people WANT to be US citizens and WANT to live the "American dream" (which is incorrect language considering everyone in North or South America is an "American")....

    It also chaps my ass that there are a ton of people waiting in line to come to the US and want to do it the legal way while others just cut in line and they get sympathy for that?

    If we're just going to give citizenship to a bunch of line-cutting illegal clowns than what is the point of going through the normal procedure??? symbolic patriotism?

    So basically if an illegal wants to use the US for money that is perfectly fine, but if you're immigrating to the US for US patriotic reasons and you respect our laws you get screwed...

    Can't say I'm shocked...

    Oh but I forgot illegals can vote so they need to be pandered to for their votes..

    What a ****ing system we have.
    AMEN !! Thank you !!

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