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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    More BS, not backed up by any links as usual.
    How do you think NOT legalizing illegal immigrants will change the practices of what has been known by corporations in this nation?

    USATODAY.com - Illegal workers found at La. base

    Federal officials are investigating how at least 10 undocumented immigrants performed hurricane reconstruction work at a naval base near New Orleans. (Related story: Cities tackle day labor dilemma)

    Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokeswoman Jamie Zuieback said Sunday that the agency was asked to come to Belle Chasse Naval Air Station on Thursday by base officials. Zuieback said 10 workers were found who were not authorized to work in the United States. They were denied base access, and the agency is investigating "the circumstance surrounding their employment," she said.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/27/us...anted=all&_r=0

    Published: July 27, 2008



    POSTVILLE, Iowa — When federal immigration agents raided the kosher meatpacking plant here in May and rounded up 389 illegal immigrants, they found more than 20 under-age workers, some as young as 13.


    Now those young immigrants have begun to tell investigators about their jobs. Some said they worked shifts of 12 hours or more, wielding razor-edged knives and saws to slice freshly killed beef. Some worked through the night, sometimes six nights a week.
    The President has deported more illegals than Bush ever did.

    BTW, the above quotes are from 2005 and 2007. Seems the number of jobs has gone down with the increase of deportation by The President.
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    I truly believe Rand shares my view that anybody that wants to come here, follow our laws, and be a productive member of society should be welcomed to do so.
    that follow our laws part. undocumented aliens violated our laws when they entered illegally. so now you and rand paul are wanting to reward them for their illegal acts by encouraging more of them to come in and work the jobs (at a discount) that would otherwise be performed by American citizens. what patriots you two are
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    How do you think NOT legalizing illegal immigrants will change the practices of what has been known by corporations in this nation?

    USATODAY.com - Illegal workers found at La. base



    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/27/us...anted=all&_r=0



    The President has deported more illegals than Bush ever did.

    BTW, the above quotes are from 2005 and 2007. Seems the number of jobs has gone down with the increase of deportation by The President.
    The second example, only, mentions labor law (pay and age) violations. Are you asserting that this would be fine if the workers had simply been US citizens? Obviously this is still going on under Obama, as we have an estimated 11 million illegal aliens still here. This practice has not magically ceased under Obama.

    Agriculture Industry Fears Disaster If Illegal Immigration Enforcement Program E-Verify Is Implemented

    Cases Target Illegal Labor - WSJ.com
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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    that follow our laws part. undocumented aliens violated our laws when they entered illegally. so now you and rand paul are wanting to reward them for their illegal acts by encouraging more of them to come in and work the jobs (at a discount) that would otherwise be performed by American citizens. what patriots you two are
    I understand your concerns. I don't share them, but I do understand them.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    I truly believe Rand shares my view that anybody that wants to come here, follow our laws, and be a productive member of society should be welcomed to do so.
    That's what I think he's probably doing too. He's a guy that does what he thinks is right. To be honest, this is the second thing he's done recently that I like (I liked his filibuster, or at least the issue behind it). I may have to change my opinion of him.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    You may accuse me of necrophilia, but, under the combined impression of the drone saga and this little episode, I am perfectly ready to write a check for his re-election coffers. And so are many, VERY many libertarians, moderates, independents and frustrated traditional Republicans, all over the country.
    You say that, but you will ALWAYS vote for the Liberal Democrat. No point lying about it.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    You say that, but you will ALWAYS vote for the Liberal Democrat. No point lying about it.
    once your debate is positioned around whether the person you are debating means what he says, you lose.

    nu uhh. uh huh. ad infinitum

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    That's what I think he's probably doing too. He's a guy that does what he thinks is right. To be honest, this is the second thing he's done recently that I like (I liked his filibuster, or at least the issue behind it). I may have to change my opinion of him.
    don't get to carried away. He is a politician too. I imagine some polls were conducted telling him that it was OK to embrace his views.

    He has learned a great deal from his 1964 civil rights statement debacle.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    You say that, but you will ALWAYS vote for the Liberal Democrat. No point lying about it.
    I had voted for a Democrat exactly once in my whole life: her only opposition in the race for a city council seat was a loony Green who would strip half naked and bodily prevent the veterinary service people from 'bothering' the nesting Canada geese on the banks of the Charles River. That was, like, fifteen years ago.

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    Re: Sen. Rand Paul: Illegal immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    once your debate is positioned around whether the person you are debating means what he says, you lose.

    nu uhh. uh huh. ad infinitum
    That is incorrect.

    Always remember that, when debating, you are NEVER going to change the mind of the person you are debating, your comments should ALWAYS be directed toward the education and edification of the audience, whatever it is. Your opponent is NEVER going to change his position, whether he believes it or not and on forums such as this, the Liberals are never going to tell you the truth about their agenda.

    No charge.
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