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Poison gas missile strike in Syria

Unitedwestand13 said:
Doing anything that directly confronts Iran would be a gift to the unpopular regime. The people would rally to the regime if they are convinced they are about to be invaded. Why give a regime already unpopular with the people a lifeline or somthing to distract the Iranian people from troubles at home?
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Well, current policies aren't working.
 
apdst said:
In 1967, Egypt, Syria, Jordon, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Morocco, Algeria, Libya, Kuwait, Tunisia, Sudan and the PLO went to war with Israel. So, the notion that they can't put their 700 year old fueds aside is very naive.
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Who is the common enemy in Syrias civil war? Isreal is not involved in it.
 
TheNextEra said:
Yet again, with an all out invasion force no. Is invading countries the only solution the right can ever come up with?
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A MOAB from 80,000 feet on top of Assad's castle would be my response, followed by a strong letter.
 
TheNextEra said:
Yet again, with an all out invasion force no. Is invading countries the only solution the right can ever come up with?
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All out invasion, or nothing are the only two options. We've seen what happens when we try to fight wars in a half-assed fashion. Iraq and Afghanistan could have been ces tou finis by 2005--2006 at the latest.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
What if it was not us leading the charge? What if turkey gets involved first?
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Sorry, I want no part of us being there

via the UN or our own choice!

We have enough problems here ,lets take care of them!!:twocents:
 
apdst said:
The United States and Israel are the common enemy of everyone in the ME.
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Jordan and Egypt are at peace with isreal. Saudi Arabia has its own problems to attend to. All the other Arabic countries are too far away, not well armed enough to challenge isreal, or not even part of the Middle East at all.

The only nations that openly want conflict with isreal are lebenon, Palestine, Iran, and Syria. And right now in the civil war in Syria, the common enemy of the people is the Assad regime.
 
apdst said:
No amount of money, nor all the tea in China will bribe the islamofacists out of their theological political agenda.
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The UN and WB doesn't bribe the islamofascists, they bribe the more normal people (most of any population). Iran bribes the islamofascists. We will win.
 
ecofarm said:
The UN and WB doesn't bribe the islamofascists, they bribe the more normal people (most of any population). Iran bribes the islamofascists. We will win.
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The islamofacists then in turn intimidate the normal people into doing what they want.
 
apdst said:
All out invasion, or nothing are the only two options. We've seen what happens when we try to fight wars in a half-assed fashion. Iraq and Afghanistan could have been ces tou finis by 2005--2006 at the latest.
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That kind of thinking got us into the mess called Iraq.

International relations is a game of chess, not arm wrestling. Without strategy, reason, knowledge, and practical decesion making, we are nothing but a enraged animal blindly lashing out at anything in its path. Strength means nothing if you are caught in a trap.
 
Disputatious71 said:
Looking to see how this plays out myself as well.
First off it appears Syrian state TV is blaming the rebels and the rebels are blaming the Assad regime.
Then you have 0bama claiming their isn't enough money in the USA to open White House for tours or the annual easter Egg hunt, USDA meat inspectors to prevent salmonella outbreaks, and now he will have to find Syrian Red Line $$$ or will he let them find their own way like those US military vets that wanted a college education ?
Hopefully this will be an isolated incident or a handling error instead of an escalation.
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I think he will find the money to attack Syria if he wanted to. Our congressional majority loves a good war. Their defense contractor masters makes LOTS of money off them. I'm sure they wouldn't give Obama too much trouble.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
That kind of thinking got us into the mess called Iraq.

International relations is a game of chess, not arm wrestling. Without strategy, reason, knowledge, and practical decesion making, we are nothing but a enraged animal blindly lashing out at anything in its path. Strength means nothing if you are caught in a trap.
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You didn't even read my post. Did you?
 
apdst said:
The islamofacists then in turn intimidate the normal people into doing what they want.
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Not if we keep pumpin' 'em full o' cash until their kids get a decent education.
 
apdst said:
You didn't even read my post. Did you?
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If you mean that waging total war againist Afghanistan and Iraq would have ended the wars sooner, then I think you have no idea how ignorant of the consequences of such a policy. Total war means letting go of all restraints and allowing for us to bomb cities at will. That is great if you know that the entire country is your enemy. That was not the case with Iraq and Afghanistan, where our enemy's were a select minority and hid themselves amongst the civilian population using them as their sheilds. Every civilian we indiscriminately killed enraged the civilians , making them more willing to join the terrorists cause.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
If you mean that waging total war againist Afghanistan and Iraq would have ended the wars sooner, then I think you have no idea how ignorant of the consequences of such a policy. Total war means letting go of all restraints and allowing for us to bomb cities at will. That is great if you know that the entire country is your enemy. That was not the case with Iraq and Afghanistan, where our enemy's were a select minority and hid themselves amongst the civilian population using them as their sheilds. Every civilian we indiscriminately killed enraged the civilians , making them more willing to join the terrorists cause.
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History has proven that total war is the only way to win. It was proven during WW2 and it was proven during the Civil War.
 
apdst said:
Another foreign policy strategy that has never worked.
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It did remarkably well in S. Korea and Japan. We hadn't tried it in the mideast until Iraq.
 
apdst said:
History has proven that total war is the only way to win. It was proven during WW2 and it was proven during the Civil War.
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Sorry, the days of total war are over except on xbox and such.

We need to encourage and support democratic progress and stability towards world development and freedom. Only when everyone is free will world war end. Personally, I find peace as an option while people suffer under tyranny to be despicable.
 
I just hope the current administration don't go off half-cocked with bad intelligence and jump feet first into another costly war like the last one did. We STILL haven't recovered from that screw up.

Think about it. If you were a Syrian rebel and you wanted to drag in the U.S. to help you depose the Syrian regime, how could you do it? Let loose some deadly gas and blame it on the Regime. Or, better yet, if you're a defense contractor wanting make a zillion dollars off another war, how could you get the US to get involved (other than buying off more politicians?) Pay a clandestine mercinary to let loose a few poison gas cannisters and then stand back as everyone points fingers hoping your bough and paid for politicians will take the ball and run with it. I don't doubt either scenerio.

You folks should never forget that the pro-Syrian people as well as the Syrian rebels would like nothing more than to hang American heads on pikes.

We don't owe them a thing. Let the cards fall where they may. We have our own issues that are more important to us than to solve the crisis of a people who would just as soon see us all hanging from trusses with our bodies in ashes. Screw them.

We got no dog in their fight. Let 'em just kill each other off. It ain't our bitch.
 
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ecofarm said:
It did remarkably well in S. Korea and Japan. We hadn't tried it in the mideast until Iraq.
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South Korea and Japan weren't over-flowing with islamofacists, either. Not to mention we bombed Japan into dust.

The only solution to islamofacism is to kill them all and reap so much death and destruction that islamofacism becomes a dirty word, just like Nazism became a dirty word in Germany after WW2.

The islamofacist fanatics are ready to die for their cause and I say we accomadate them every chance we get.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
You have not made one post on this subject that is not a defense of obama. You obama worshipers seem to think he is the center of the universe.
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LOL I love your logic. I asked the right what they want Obama to do and that equates to support. Only in Righty lala land I swear.
 
apdst said:
History has proven that total war is the only way to win. It was proven during WW2 and it was proven during the Civil War.
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Our enemy in Afghanistan and Iraq was not the country's nor its people. Our enemy did not recognize borders, nor civilans, nor terms. Terrorists do not engage in war, they may call it a war but that it is their definition, terrorists engage in acts of terror: cold, ruthless attacks that maximize damage inflicted, both physical and psychological, and whose victims include civilan and soldier alike. You cannot fight total war againist terrorism because terrorists do not believe in the concept of civilians or non combatants or neutrality, they hide among civilians as their cover and they rally support for their cause with every civilian we kill indiscrimatly.
 
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