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    Re: Poison gas missile strike in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I think the United Nations will force the matter, they will ask us to lead a colalition into Syria.

    Lets just hope this story is just a rumor.
    Why would they start now? When is the last time they did anything?

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    Re: Poison gas missile strike in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Personally, I think anyone enjoying the freedoms of America, that did not serve, is much like a welfare rat. Living off the work of others.

    But I digress.
    Except that we arent living off others. We are working and paying taxes and contributing to the country and following the laws. Would you call a teacher a welfare rat? A fireman? A businessman who pays for the military? These are all people the country needs to function, much like soldiers. Even politicians, bleh.

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    Re: Poison gas missile strike in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So our job is to be the policemen of the world?
    To an extent. We maintain a minimum level of security guarantee in order to underwrite a global trade structure that allows us to live our first-world life. Along the way on occasion it's good that we can help other populaces do things like avoid getting gassed by their own governments. However, in this instance doing the Right Thing overlapped with doing the Smart Thing and protecting US allies / Defending US Interests.

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    Re: Poison gas missile strike in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    What I proposed long ago when this thing started. As soon as the situation degenerated into civil war and Assad started massacring his people we should have secured the WMD sites we knew about and destroyed or removed the stores. Then we should have announced that we wish to protect the civilian populace from Assad (as we did in Libya) and bombed the crap out of some of his strategic sites in order to strip away his C4I and IADS capabilities. This would have left us much better positioned against Iran, and removed a serious threat.
    ...and how do we secure his "wmd" sites? Invade? Interesting you would propose this and use the term "wmd" on this particular anniversary. It begs the question: didn't you learn anything?

    You do realize that "as we did in Libya" is a huge assumption that we are dealing with a similar situation. If you think that, you are running contrary to the experts on this matter.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...d-in-conflict/

    Also, please note that this particular line of thought seriously impairs your credibility in ever expressing to outrage about debt and deficits. Do you know how expensive it is to bomb and occupy?

    So we are clear, I respect your opinion that an active military solution in Syria is warranted; I respect the opinions that say debt and deficits are a major economic problem that must be addressed immediately. I don't respect the idea of holding both opinions (not saying you do)...
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    Re: Poison gas missile strike in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    ...and how do we secure his "wmd" sites? Invade?
    No. Raid. Or destroy. Or raid and destroy. But ensure that the weaponry cannot be used or reconstituted. Sort of like someone did to the Syrian nuclear facility a few years back.

    Interesting you would propose this and use the term "wmd" on this particular anniversary. It begs the question: didn't you learn anything?

    You do realize that "as we did in Libya" is a huge assumption that we are dealing with a similar situation. If you think that, you are running contrary to the experts on this matter.

    Dempsey: Syria 'much different' from Libya, 'big players' involved in conflict | Fox News
    The funniest thing about this is that you don't know why this is funny.

    Also, please note that this particular line of thought seriously impairs your credibility in ever expressing to outrage about debt and deficits. Do you know how expensive it is to bomb and occupy?
    I would say I am roughly aware of the supply issues relevant to precision guided munitions stores. It's not my specialty. But perhaps we can play the cost game. Which is likely to be more expensive? 125 BLU-109's? Or cleaning up the mess of an AQ-affliate associated with the Syrian resistance getting their hands on a working Bio-weapon production line?

    So we are clear, I respect your opinion that an active military solution in Syria is warranted; I respect the opinions that say debt and deficits are a major economic problem that must be addressed immediately. I don't respect the idea of holding both opinions (not saying you do)...
    I do. What you should note before you decide not to respect people is that not every military solution is "invade with 175,000 dudes".

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