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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    After my first post on this subject I expected to get hammered but I am encouraged at how many agree with me to some degree. The girl is not guilt free in this. I did notice that someone started a thread in the basement about me on this subject though, I'm just not in a basement mood tonight so I haven't looked.
    She isn't guilty for getting raped. How about instead of telling women that they need to do X, Y, and Z to not get raped, we just tell men to not rape women?
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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    If you believe that then look up their names in a registered sex offender database 2-years from now and you will find nothing. Then again I'm not familiar with Ohio criminal law, however I'm sure it's similar to Illinois.
    I'm just going on what Ohio law says and I'm certain they'll be on the list in 2 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    If those rapist clowns moved out of state Ohio law/statutes don't apply to them.
    I think it does in most States. I took the liberty of checking on Illinois and a law passed in January of last year requires registered sex offenders who move from another State to register in Illinois within three days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Of course they will be branded any way you slice the cake because their names are all over the internet so they're screwed for life because the internet just doesn't go away. So I suppose the point of weather or not they will face a harsh life after their rapist actions is moot.
    Agreed.

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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    I think you are right that we need to present the reality of the situation and consequences of your actions as a part of being safe. Sure it is wrong to rape, but that does not make it stop existing. There are still rapists despite punishments and laws, and I think there will always be rapists. Girls should be aware that predators are out there and look for easy victims like those who like to get really drunk. had this girl kept her wits there is a good chance she would not have been raped.

    There is a huge tree on a sharp turn where I grew up. Every 4 or 5 years it claims the lives of a bunch of high school students in the exact same way. They speed around the corner, hit the tree, and it seems all of them die. The tree is not malicious like a rapist and searching for easy victims, but it still keeps killing kids. before anyone says it cutting it down just makes the ravine behind it the killer. the reality is that the rest of the kids in school learn to slow the **** down when driving because of their friend's death. Just like that tree rapists are out there. hopefully this girl's story will inspire others to avoid stupid behavior. That is called taking responsibility for your own safety, and it is smarter to do that than to hope that rapists go away.
    That was a really insightful post.

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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    She isn't guilty for getting raped. How about instead of telling women that they need to do X, Y, and Z to not get raped, we just tell men to not rape women?

    I think we already make it pretty clear that rape is bad. The problem is that some people just don't care.

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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    I'm just going on what Ohio law says and I'm certain they'll be on the list in 2 years.



    I think it does in most States. I took the liberty of checking on Illinois and a law passed in January of last year requires registered sex offenders who move from another State to register in Illinois within three days.



    Agreed.
    Were not talking about adults, we're talking about juveniles. If we were talking about adults I would agree.

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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Solaris View Post
    That was a really insightful post.
    Agreed! Although drinking teenagers don't usually think of things like that. Too abstract, or something....

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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    I think you are right that we need to present the reality of the situation and consequences of your actions as a part of being safe. Sure it is wrong to rape, but that does not make it stop existing. There are still rapists despite punishments and laws, and I think there will always be rapists. Girls should be aware that predators are out there and look for easy victims like those who like to get really drunk. had this girl kept her wits there is a good chance she would not have been raped.

    There is a huge tree on a sharp turn where I grew up. Every 4 or 5 years it claims the lives of a bunch of high school students in the exact same way. They speed around the corner, hit the tree, and it seems all of them die. The tree is not malicious like a rapist and searching for easy victims, but it still keeps killing kids. before anyone says it cutting it down just makes the ravine behind it the killer. the reality is that the rest of the kids in school learn to slow the **** down when driving because of their friend's death. Just like that tree rapists are out there. hopefully this girl's story will inspire others to avoid stupid behavior. That is called taking responsibility for your own safety, and it is smarter to do that than to hope that rapists go away.
    Women should be able to do or act however they choose, even stupidly, without the fear of molestation. This isn't the stone age in which some neanderthal bashes a woman over the head with a rock, hauls her back to his cave, and has his way with her while everyone else just shrugs their shoulders. That is not what a civilized society should do. These boys and their cohorts clearly had zero moral standards and some of the witnesses didn't even know what rape was. We shouldn't simply accept that rapists exist; we should be stamping them out altogether. In other words, you need some road signs, a guard rail, or even a wall for that hairpin of yours so people don't shrug their shoulders at another senseless tragedy.
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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    After my first post on this subject I expected to get hammered but I am encouraged at how many agree with me to some degree. The girl is not guilt free in this. I did notice that someone started a thread in the basement about me on this subject though, I'm just not in a basement mood tonight so I haven't looked.
    She's "guilty" of a lot of things, but her culpability ends where other people's choices begin. Since the rape was exclusively two other people's choice, then she has zero culpability in that.

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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Were not talking about adults, we're talking about juveniles. If we were talking about adults I would agree.
    I've already pointed out these sex offender registration requirements apply to juveniles. The requirements for adults, with the exception of Tier III, are an additional 5 years for each tier. Do you need a link?

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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    High school
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    Chick makes out with some of the guys
    Girl refuses to leave with other girls
    chick passes out

    What happens next?
    I believe the technical term is "rape". Which is the serious, violent felony committed here by several young men who believed they were above the law.

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