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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    Too bad the scumbags weren't tried as adults. Still, its nice to see that playing football doesn't get you completely off-the-hook for rape. One year for Richmond, two years for Mays, and both will be registered sex offenders for as long as they breathe air.
    They should have got at least 8 years each and another 2 for gloating about it.

    I understand they're kids and not hardcore criminals, however they need to pay for what they did...

    The judge should have at least locked them up until they were 21 - weather remorseful or not.

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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    They raped a girl and got a slap on the wrist.

    IMO a rape conviction should come with a mandatory death penalty.
    I would agree with that, but registering as a sex offender is not a slap on the wrist.

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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    When I was around 16 there was a bunch of us way out in left field after a football game drinking smoking dope etc. One girl was falling down drunk and at one point as she laid on her back she unzipped her pants and looked up at us seductively. Next thing you knew her pants were off and a guy was on her, then another, then another. I was considering taking a turn she seemed to be enjoying herself but along came her girl friends and drug her off just in time. Was that rape?
    Unlike the girl in OP, as you tell, it the girl in your story was aware of her actions.










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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    I would agree with that, but registering as a sex offender is not a slap on the wrist.
    They wont be - the second they turn 18 it will be a clean slate for them - then they will do it again.

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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    They wont be - the second they turn 18 it will be a clean slate for them - then they will do it again.
    That is probably why the judge required that they register as sex offenders following their release. Thus, they will be registering as adults and it will rightly haunt them on every job application, background check, rental application, mortgage application, etc for the rest of their lives.

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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Oh, I know you're not coming in here and saying that a girl who was raped is, in any way, responsible for other people's actions?

    If she was drunk, is she responsible for being drunk? Absolutely.
    If she was drunk, is she responsible for two people raping her? Absolutely ****ing not.

    She isn't responsible, partially or otherwise, for other people's CHOICES.

    For God's sake, it's 2013. Can we please throw this medieval bull**** out the window?
    It's less about it being her fault for being raped, and more about it being her fault for increasing the probability that she could be raped.

    After all I don't just "expect" people to not steal things out of my car. I lock my doors and make sure I don't leave cash in it. The rapists are still criminals, but she should have done more to prevent herself from becoming a victim.

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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    They raped a girl and got a slap on the wrist.

    IMO a rape conviction should come with a mandatory death penalty.
    I agree they should serve more jail time, but that is life. As for getting off easy that is another story today. years ago, yes that would be the case. now their names are immortalized and searchable by anyone. Every time an employer does a background check their names will come up. they don't even need to go that far, they just need to plug their names into google. On top of that they will be on the sexual offender registry which has great consequences like always having to tell the local registry when you move into the area. Oh, and there are places on the internet that ban you automatically for being a sexual offender. Facebook comes to mind as one of the places with a zero tolerance policy for sexual offenders, though they are not great at being secure. Some more jail time would be great, but their lives are screwed. Jail will actually be one of the easier times for them as they are required to feed them, house them, and give them some medical attention. We don't fully guarantee that stuff for the free. They may make something out of their lives. It is entirely possible even in a famous case. It is also very rare, and they will probably end up on the wrong side of the law for the rest of their lives. next time they won't have the football fans in a town backing them.

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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    That is probably why the judge required that they register as sex offenders following their release. Thus, they will be registering as adults and it will rightly haunt them on every job application, background check, rental application, mortgage application, etc for the rest of their lives.
    It doesn't matter - they were convicted as juveniles.

    They'll only serve 6 months to a year each, the rest of the sentence will be probation and then they will solicit a lawyer to have their juvenile records sealed.

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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Your response to a harsh analysis of the perpetrators of this incident is to immediately bleat that someone may be racist.

    You should be ashamed of your limp wristed complete disregard for the suffering of the 16 year old victim and your hot eyed leap to wrap a cloak of warm Liberal goo around the brutality of the perpetrators. Liberals like you are precisely what causes things like this to happen to innocent children.
    No, rape culture, a culture where women are viewed as objects solely existing for the sexual pleasure of men, is how things like this happen to innocent children.
    "And in the end, we were all just humans, drunk on the idea that love, only love, could heal our brokenness."

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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    It's less about it being her fault for being raped, and more about it being her fault for increasing the probability that she could be raped.

    After all I don't just "expect" people to not steal things out of my car. I lock my doors and make sure I don't leave cash in it. The rapists are still criminals, but she should have done more to prevent herself from becoming a victim.
    I think you are right that we need to present the reality of the situation and consequences of your actions as a part of being safe. Sure it is wrong to rape, but that does not make it stop existing. There are still rapists despite punishments and laws, and I think there will always be rapists. Girls should be aware that predators are out there and look for easy victims like those who like to get really drunk. had this girl kept her wits there is a good chance she would not have been raped.

    There is a huge tree on a sharp turn where I grew up. Every 4 or 5 years it claims the lives of a bunch of high school students in the exact same way. They speed around the corner, hit the tree, and it seems all of them die. The tree is not malicious like a rapist and searching for easy victims, but it still keeps killing kids. before anyone says it cutting it down just makes the ravine behind it the killer. the reality is that the rest of the kids in school learn to slow the **** down when driving because of their friend's death. Just like that tree rapists are out there. hopefully this girl's story will inspire others to avoid stupid behavior. That is called taking responsibility for your own safety, and it is smarter to do that than to hope that rapists go away.

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