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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    I think every parent that had a kid a that party should be fined no less the $5k. We need to start holding parents accountable for these **** ups.

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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I think every parent that had a kid a that party should be fined no less the $5k. We need to start holding parents accountable for these **** ups.
    Yeah fine them and then give that money to the poor girl that was degraded for restitution maybe..... I'd be fine with that, but not give it to the government - that would just be sinister funk... That would make the government profit off rape.
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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Has to be the most anticlimactic jury decision of all time. Considering all the evidence...no way this didn't end in a guilty verdict. And they really truly should have tried them as an adult and every other person on that team that was there and watched should be tried as an accessory.

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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Your response to a harsh analysis of the perpetrators of this incident is to immediately bleat that someone may be racist.

    You should be ashamed of your limp wristed complete disregard for the suffering of the 16 year old victim and your hot eyed leap to wrap a cloak of warm Liberal goo around the brutality of the perpetrators. Liberals like you are precisely what causes things like this to happen to innocent children.
    By "perpetrators" you'd be referring to the defense that consisted of a black kid and a white kid... but you are "liking" and coming to the defense of a post that was bitching and whining about only the black kid's upbringing. Whodathunk you'd do that? Shock and surprise to the lot of us I'm sure.
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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Funny that my soc class is doing a unit on group-think right now. You can't just issue a statement "don't rape women" and expect that to stop the mob of drunk undisciplined local celebrities free of adult supervision or consequence zombies.

    It doesn't work that way.
    The group will set aside moral judgement and standards, so asserting moral judgement and standards will only get you villanised and psychically assaulted just for voicing a contrary opinion. Worse if you act on it. In a way it's a blessing to this girl that she was unconscious, because if she resisted the mob likely would have beaten or killed her on top of it all.

    You have to undermine the group:
    • There needs to be parental authority in their lives.
    • The celebrity status in the town for being an athlete needs to be taken down several notches.
    • The town needs more exposure to the rest of the world.


    Fortunantly, this conviction serves to undermine the group-think by highlighting their faults and adding consequence.

    But you can't just tell a group to not do a crime and expect that they will obey.

    I know it doesn't work that way. We have to change our culture to respect women and look at them as human beings rather than objects.
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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I know it doesn't work that way. We have to change our culture to respect women and look at them as human beings rather than objects.
    what culture has rape never existed in? Seems rather dependent on the fact we have sex drives and tend towards violence, as a species

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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    what culture has rape never existed in? Seems rather dependent on the fact we have sex drives and tend towards violence, as a species
    That doesn't make it OK, especially in the 21st century when we consider ourselves "civilized." Also, rape culture doesn't mean rape exists in a culture. Rape culture "is an environment in which rape is prevalent and in which sexual violence against women is normalized and excused in the media and popular culture." (Rape Culture)
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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    That doesn't make it OK, especially in the 21st century when we consider ourselves "civilized." Also, rape culture doesn't mean rape exists in a culture. Rape culture "is an environment in which rape is prevalent and in which sexual violence against women is normalized and excused in the media and popular culture." (Rape Culture)
    Which is not what the culture is in any Western nation. Maybe "rape culture" exists in third-world backwaters like India and Congo. I do not see violence against women normalized or excused in the American, Canadian, Australia, or European media, though.

    Rape is considered the most heinous crime by the majority of the population, as evidence by the hysteria and hyperbole surrounding the average rape case as well as calls for excessive punishments, such as "hang them" and "cut off their balls and stuff it in their mouths". Violence against women in general is considered unforgivable, while much violence against men is considered trivial and sometimes even amusing. Anyone who believes rape-culture exists truly is blind, brainwashed, mendacious, or just plain dumb.
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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    [QUOTE=Graffias;1061582068]Which is not what the culture is in any Western nation. Maybe "rape culture" exists in third-world backwaters like India and Congo. I do not see violence against women normalized or excused in the American, Canadian, Australia, or European media, though.

    Rape is considered the most heinous crime by the majority of the population, as evidence by the hysteria and hyperbole surrounding the average rape case as well as calls for excessive punishments, such as "hang them" and "cut off their balls and stuff it in their mouths". Violence against women in general is considered unforgivable, while much violence against men is considered trivial and sometimes even amusing. Anyone who believes rape-culture exists truly is blind, brainwashed, mendacious,
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    Re: Steubenville High School football players found guilty of raping 16-year-old girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    If you believe that then look up their names in a registered sex offender database 2-years from now and you will find nothing.

    Then again I'm not familiar with Ohio criminal law, however I'm sure it's similar to Illinois.

    If those rapist clowns moved out of state Ohio law/statutes don't apply to them.

    Of course they will be branded any way you slice the cake because their names are all over the internet so they're screwed for life because the internet just doesn't go away. So I suppose the point of weather or not they will face a harsh life after their rapist actions is moot.
    Actually, most states have an agreement regarding the sexual offense registry. If you move to Texas from a state in which you were on the registry, you must also register with Texas. Michigan did/does the same thing. Moving from Texas to Kentucky, Tennessee, Colorado, Ohio, Michigan, Florida, and Alabama (just the ones I've seen first hand) requires re-registering in that state.

    I think you're speaking on something you might not fully understand. I get the frustration w/the sentence, but assuming something that isn't legally possible will happen to justify your anger just doesn't move the discussion forward all that much.
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