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Palin Calls Obama a Liar in Speech to Conservative Activists......

There is not a better person in this world to represent the radical right. head lemming sarah is just charging that cliff and drawing all her followers with her. Is there any way we can help this woman and her cause? I do hope she is coming back and not just talking trash she will not back up again.
 
tererun said:
There is not a better person in this world to represent the radical right. head lemming sarah is just charging that cliff and drawing all her followers with her. Is there any way we can help this woman and her cause? I do hope she is coming back and not just talking trash she will not back up again.
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soooo.. what did you disagree with her on?
 
MMC said:
When he accused Obama of Wide Spread abuses of Human Rights in 2012. ;)
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I'm inclined to give Carter's word more weight by way of his reputation. He wouldn't waste everyone's time with birther crap.
 
OP said:
Palin Calls Obama a Liar in Speech to Conservative Activists...
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The fact of the matter is that Obama is a liar. Do you have a problem with people who speak truth?

Do you hate truth? If so, why?
 
I couldn't care less what Palin says. She ceased being relevant the moment Obama won the election in 2008.
 
PeteEU said:
She aint no woman... women have intelligence.
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Well, de-humanize much?


Cardinal said:
I'm inclined to give Carter's word more weight by way of his reputation. He wouldn't waste everyone's time with birther crap.
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haha

I'd rather be a an ex-gov and failed VP-candidate than the worst president in half a century and a looney toon. Don't get me wrong, I like peanut farming, but Carter was and is the most pathetic. He did more harm to the US since his presidency than during, and that's saying something.
 
ecofarm said:
I'd rather be a an ex-gov and failed VP-candidate than the worst president in half a century

Don't get me wrong, I like peanut farming, but Carter was and is the most pathetic. He did more harm to the US since his presidency than during, and that's saying something.
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According to whom exactly? You'll be hard pressed to find a historical consensus that would place Carter below both Nixon and Bush the Younger.

Care to elaborate?
 
Cardinal said:
I'm inclined to give Carter's word more weight by way of his reputation. He wouldn't waste everyone's time with birther crap.
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Yeah well that's Trump and the Extreme Right.....those who are Somebody in the Party knew all along about Obama.

So then would you take Carters Word concerning Obama and those Wide Spread Human Rights Abuses?
 
a351 said:
According to whom exactly? You'll be hard pressed to find a historical consensus that would place Carter below both Nixon and Bush the Younger.

Care to elaborate?
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As someone who witnessed Carter's presidency and having witnessed his debacle of post-pres hysteria and toolship, I just don't think there's any reason to relive the embarrassment he created. Carter is something that most of us would rather just forget. Left fringies that tout his name are funny but sad. If someone cannot admit that even one of "their" presidents was bad, they're a hack.

Bush II has a huge fan base. Carter? hahaha Yeah, he's got a couple but even independents laugh at them.

Perhaps you're thinking of 'Welcome Back, Carter". Everyone likes that guy.
 
a351 said:
According to whom exactly? You'll be hard pressed to find a historical consensus that would place Carter below both Nixon and Bush the Younger.

Care to elaborate?
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Well Ranker has Carter 8th as the Worst. Nixon and Bush the Younger don't even make the Top Ten.

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1




James Buchanan

1791


#2 on the ultimate list

“ Democratic Party (1857-1861)

He called slavery "an issue of little practical importance", supported the Dredd Scott v. Sanford decision, supported the Lecompton constitution, supported slaveholders rights, divided his party, and when the states were seceding from the union, Buchanan did absolutely nothing. „



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Warren G. Harding

1865


#3 on the ultimate list

“ Republican Party (1921-1923)

Harding was wishy-washy, easily overwhelmed, and devoid of political skill. He tried to escape his presidency, occupying himself philandering, playing golf, and playing poker while his old friends that he appointed into high political positions were engaging themselves in corrupt activities. „



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3




Ulysses S. Grant

1822


#12 on the ultimate list

“ Republican Party (1869-1877)

While Grant was a respectable general, his presidency was marred by graft and corruption. He was a naive nepotist, although innocent himself, who tolerated scandal after scandal. „



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4




Franklin Pierce

1804


#9 on the ultimate list

“ Democratic Party (1853-1857)

His signing of the Kansas-Nebraska Act deeply worsened the slavery issue and resulted in Bleeding Kansas. „



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5




Millard Fillmore

1800


#8 on the ultimate list

“ Whig Party (1850-1853)

His efforts to compromise the slavery issue initially resulted in an ephemeral palliation of tension between the northern states and the southern states but it only delayed the inevitable. „



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Andrew Johnson

1808


#1 on the ultimate list

“ Democratic Party (1865-1869)

His persistent efforts to impede Reconstruction and his refusal to support civil rights for freed slaves resulted in a century of African American subjugation. „



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Martin Van Buren

1782


#14 on the ultimate list

“ Democratic Party (1837-1841)

Van Buren brutally enforced Indian Removal and refused to annex Texas. When the country was faced with an economic depression, he continued to pursue Jackson's failed economic policies. „



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Jimmy Carter

1924


#7 on the ultimate list

“ Democratic Party (1977-1981)

His refusal to adequately fund national defense resulted in the U.S. being unable to react to the multiple foreign crises which happened during his administration. „



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Herbert Hoover

1874


#6 on the ultimate list

“ Republican Party (1929-1933)

Although he was a capable administrator, his policies of deflation, high taxes, and high tariffs greatly exacerbated the Great Depression. „



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John Tyler

1790


Read more at The 10 Worst U.S. Presidents
 
MMC said:
Well Ranker has Carter 8th as the Worst. Nixon and Bush the Younger don't even make the Top Ten.
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Ranker.com? Oh look, you can rate your favorite girl scout cookies as well..
 
Thrilla said:
soooo.. what did you disagree with her on?
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No please, i am just here to watch. Don't let me interrupt the love fest. There is no reason to argue with the palin statements. It is like arguing with someone else's petulant 2 year old. You just give them back to mom and enjoy the show.
 
MMC said:
How many would you like here is Amazons With Carter being the 4th Worst. :roll:

Amazon.com: Worst US Presidents- Bottom 10
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LOL! You're citing random user lists off freaking Amazon?

User Name: K. Cooper

Interests: Family, baseball, music and movies from different eras and styles. Also travel and food. Works that express support for traditional values in politics and religion are also something I enjoy

Looks like a historian to me!
 
a351 said:
LOL! You're citing random user lists off freaking Amazon?

User Name: K. Cooper

Interests: Family, baseball, music and movies from different eras and styles. Also travel and food. Works that express support for traditional values in politics and religion are also something I enjoy

Looks like a historian to me!
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Well theres about 10-15 of them that all list Carter as one of the Worst. While Forbes has Bush Being the Worst Over the Economy until the Advent of Obama.
 
ecofarm said:
As someone who witnessed Carter's presidency and having witnessed his debacle of post-pres hysteria and toolship, I just don't think there's any reason to relive the embarrassment he created. Carter is something that most of us would rather just forget. Left fringies that tout his name are funny but sad. If someone cannot admit that even one of "their" presidents was bad, they're a hack.

Bush II has a huge fan base. Carter? hahaha Yeah, he's got a couple but even independents laugh at them.
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Personal recollections don't hold water, nor does your feelings of embarrassment. You could pluck 10 guys off the street who lived through said area and get 10 different takes, most of them will probably be wrong too.

And? You can find folks who'll tell ya Lincoln and FDR were the worst presidents ever. No need to take the word of the majority too seriously.
 
To anyone who closely follows politics, it's obvious Obama's lies have increased a lot lately, even for him. Just in the past couple months, Obama's baseline of lies has increased enormously, starting primarily with all of his nonsense about the detrimental effects of the sequester. The last Obama whopper, still ongoing, is the lie about the Secret Service canceling the White House tours, followed immediately by Jan Carney pointing out that was a lie, the White House Canceled the tours.

Even for Obama, the lies have become seemingly routine. Attacking Sarah Palin does not change that fact about Obama.
 
MMC said:
Well theres about 10-15 of them that all list Carter as one of the Worst.

While Forbes has Bush Being the Worst Over the Economy until the Advent of Obama.
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Again, your citing random users from Amazon. You know that making lists is free on there right?

1. Daffy Duck
2. Hoover.
3. Johnson.

Ok?
 
tererun said:
No please, i am just here to watch. Don't let me interrupt the love fest. There is no reason to argue with the palin statements. It is like arguing with someone else's petulant 2 year old. You just give them back to mom and enjoy the show.
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ahh ok.. so it's just the usual liberal knee jerk hatred at work here... gotcha.

FWIW, i'm not a fan of Palin's politics... I just don't have this weird hate fetish that y'all do.
 
a351 said:
Again, your citing random users from Amazon. You know that making lists is free on there right?

1. Daffy Duck
2. Hoover.
3. Johnson.

Ok?
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So then, do you think Carter was Right on Obama?
 
MMC said:
Well theres about 10-15 of them that all list Carter as one of the Worst. While Forbes has Bush Being the Worst Over the Economy until the Advent of Obama.
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Carter was bad, no doubt... but as for being "the worst"..well, that's BS.
 
a351 said:
Personal recollections don't hold water, nor does your feelings of embarrassment. You could pluck 10 guys off the street who lived through said area and get 10 different takes, most of them will probably be wrong too.
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Whatever, dude. Go do your own research. I'm not here for you, or to convince you personally of anything. Get a job.

And? You can find folks who'll tell ya Lincoln and FDR were the worst presidents ever. No need to take the word of the majority too seriously.
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I see, so even if I provided "statistical" evidence, you'd deny it. Do I care?
 
ecofarm said:
Whatever, dude. Go do your own research. I'm not here for you, or to convince you personally of anything.

I see, so even if I provided "statistical" evidence, you'd deny it. Do I care?
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Just lookin for some source material that would actually back up either of your claims.

By "word of majority" I mean your average joe six pack. You cited the opinions of your average voter as if they actually hold weight on a meaningful or historical level. They simply don't.
 
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