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    Re: Palin Calls Obama a Liar in Speech to Conservative Activists......

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Obama wasn't always president, so I'll make my question clearer:

    When Obama was running for president, not 1 of the NS organizations in the US decided to check his background? If they did, why is it they found nothing that raised any red flags?
    The premise of your question is extremely presumptuous.

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    Re: Palin Calls Obama a Liar in Speech to Conservative Activists......

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    The premise of your question is extremely presumptuous.
    Great claims require great evidence. If the claim is that Obama did not go through a background check before running for President, one has to wonder why? If he did, then why is it they (the various NS organizations in the country) didn't find anything which raised red flags for national security? What? Are we just handing the codes to the sylos over to whomever runs for president?

    As it stands we can only "presume" to know one thing: Obama went through necessary background checks performed on presidential hopefuls since the 50s-60s. They found nothing and moved on.
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    Re: Palin Calls Obama a Liar in Speech to Conservative Activists......

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Great claims require great evidence. If the claim is that Obama did not go through a background check before running for President, one has to wonder why? If he did, then why is it they (the various NS organizations in the country) didn't find anything which raised red flags for national security? What? Are we just handing the codes to the sylos over to whomever runs for president?

    As it stands we can only "presume" to know one thing: Obama went through necessary background checks performed on presidential hopefuls since the 50s-60s. They found nothing and moved on.
    What article of the US Constitution requires that a presidential candidate must be subject to a "background check"?

    I don't recall that term ever being used in the US constitution. Do you?

    In light of our current constitutional crisis I think it is time for an amendment to the US constitution.

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    Re: Palin Calls Obama a Liar in Speech to Conservative Activists......

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    What article of the US Constitution requires that a presidential candidate must be subject to a "background check"?
    Good lord, a red herring if I've ever seen one. Since when does the constitution have anything to do with background checks of any kind? They're done every single day with little regard for the constitution. Try buying a gun and see.
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    Re: Palin Calls Obama a Liar in Speech to Conservative Activists......

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Good lord, a red herring if I've ever seen one. Since when does the constitution have anything to do with background checks of any kind? They're done every single day with little regard for the constitution. Try buying a gun and see.
    Try getting on the ballot and see.

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    Re: Palin Calls Obama a Liar in Speech to Conservative Activists......

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Try getting on the ballot and see.
    Well, I accept that you have nothing to contribute to this thread other than nonsensical red herrings.
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    Re: Palin Calls Obama a Liar in Speech to Conservative Activists......

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    ahh ok.. so it's just the usual liberal knee jerk hatred at work here... gotcha.

    FWIW, i'm not a fan of Palin's politics... I just don't have this weird hate fetish that y'all do.
    No please do go on and tell us all about how great sarah is and keep putting more and more people off of your POV. Don't let me stop you from idolizing one of the biggest village idiots in the world.

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    Re: Palin Calls Obama a Liar in Speech to Conservative Activists......

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Great claims require great evidence. If the claim is that Obama did not go through a background check before running for President, one has to wonder why? If he did, then why is it they (the various NS organizations in the country) didn't find anything which raised red flags for national security? What? Are we just handing the codes to the sylos over to whomever runs for president?

    As it stands we can only "presume" to know one thing: Obama went through necessary background checks performed on presidential hopefuls since the 50s-60s. They found nothing and moved on.
    The point you are trying to make is really stupid.

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    Re: Palin Calls Obama a Liar in Speech to Conservative Activists......

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    No please do go on and tell us all about how great sarah is and keep putting more and more people off of your POV. Don't let me stop you from idolizing one of the biggest village idiots in the world.
    Palin really does have great control over you!

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    Re: Palin Calls Obama a Liar in Speech to Conservative Activists......

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    It must be a wonderful fantasy land you live in if you believe Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter aren't totally wrapped up in what serves their own self interest - there isn't a single politician ever to breathe that didn't have their own self-interest as a basis for all they do. Why do you think Presidents are so concerned about their "legacy"?
    How are the Bush's concerned with their legacies? W couldn't BUY his way to anyone who wanted his library. And Carter helping Habitat for Humanity hardly advanced his economic interests anymore than his now devoting himself to talking about peace and Mrs. Carter lobbying for the mentally ill in prisons being removed and put into mental health facilities.

    As to Clinton, working on Haiti and other endeavors takes away time from collecting money in speaking engagement.

    Such a negative view of two men who have served countless hours to help this nation certainly demonstrates your automatic conclusions to "politicians". Sad. YOu need to separate the men from the boys. It's not hard to do.
    Alex Carey:

    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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