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    Cardinal says paedophilia 'not a criminal condition'

    When those in charge have covered up crimes time and time again, when those in charge refuse to accept that actions of some of their members are criminal - what should governments do?

    Cardinal says paedophilia 'not a criminal condition'

    The Catholic Archbishop of Durban, Wilfrid Fox Napier, has said that people who were abused as children and became paedophiles were not criminally responsible for their actions in the same way as somebody "who chooses to do something like that".

    Cardinal Napier, who was among the 115 cardinals in the conclave at the Vatican that elected Pope Francis earlier this week, called paedophilia a "psychological disorder" on told BBC Radio 5 live.

    He said: "What do you do with disorders? You have got to try and put them right. If I as a normal being choose to break the law knowing that I am breaking the law, then I think I need to be punished.

    "From my experience paedophilia is actually an illness, it is not a criminal condition, it is an illness."

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    Re: Cardinal says paedophilia 'not a criminal condition'

    Did you really expect much of a change in church policy? It does show some balls to think that they get to be police, judge, and jury in these situations, and i guess doctor too. If it is a psychological disorder they can get help while serving their prison sentence. it is not up to the vatican to cover things up and hide evidence, which would be a crime for most people. But i guess when you become god's vessel on earth even riding the bus cannot help your lack of any humility.

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    Re: Cardinal says paedophilia 'not a criminal condition'

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    When those in charge have covered up crimes time and time again, when those in charge refuse to accept that actions of some of their members are criminal - what should governments do?




    Denying reality is not the way for the Church to move forward.
    Technically he is partially right.Pedophilia desires itself is not criminal.Its when you choose to act on those desires and then its criminal. However Napier if full of ****,someone does choose to molest kids.No one puts a gun to their head forcing them to molest kids.It doesn't matter if they themselves were molested as kids
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    Re: Cardinal says paedophilia 'not a criminal condition'

    An atheist/homosexual Catholic Church attack thread!!!

    What a novel idea.

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    Re: Cardinal says paedophilia 'not a criminal condition'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    An atheist/homosexual Catholic Church attack thread!!!

    What a novel idea.
    So you agree with the pope then fully?

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    Re: Cardinal says paedophilia 'not a criminal condition'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    An atheist/homosexual Catholic Church attack thread!!!

    What a novel idea.
    What the **** does this have to do with either atheists or homosexuals?

    Are many pedophiles molested as children themselves? Seems unlikely but I really don't k ow for sure.
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    Re: Cardinal says paedophilia 'not a criminal condition'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What the **** does this have to do with either atheists or homosexuals?
    That's a reasonable question.

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    Re: Cardinal says paedophilia 'not a criminal condition'

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    When those in charge have covered up crimes time and time again, when those in charge refuse to accept that actions of some of their members are criminal - what should governments do?




    Denying reality is not the way for the Church to move forward.

    It is not just the church, it is society as a whole. Being responsible for ones action and being held accountable for that action is a thing of the past. I hear it all the time, it was the environment he was brought up in, it was being abused as a child and on and on. Even little kids going to school are taught it is not their fault, it is always someone else's fault. So this just falls into a long line of it's not my fault routine. I am not responsible. So why do you think the church should be any different?
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    Re: Cardinal says paedophilia 'not a criminal condition'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    An atheist/homosexual Catholic Church attack thread!!!

    What a novel idea.
    Looks like someone needs to file a hurt feelings report.

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    Re: Cardinal says paedophilia 'not a criminal condition'

    What exactly defines "An atheist/homosexual Catholic Church attack"?

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