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    Re: Cardinal says paedophilia 'not a criminal condition'

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    When those in charge have covered up crimes time and time again, when those in charge refuse to accept that actions of some of their members are criminal - what should governments do?




    Denying reality is not the way for the Church to move forward.
    His weak attempt to parse paedophilia into greater and lesser classifications is adequately creepy.
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    Re: Cardinal says paedophilia 'not a criminal condition'

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    His weak attempt to parse paedophilia into greater and lesser classifications is adequately creepy.
    Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the Pope. I'm an American and I believe it's morally wrong to participate into elevating a human being to a social status above other humans, and I'm a Protestant and I believe it's morally wrong to participate in elevating a person to spiritual status above other humans. But he is right about this and you are wrong. It is a fact that Pedophilia is an incurable medical condition, not a crime. Pedophilia isn't ever a person's action, and only person's actions can be crimes. Sexual attraction is a chemical reaction, not a choice. Choices can be wrong but chemical reactions are just science. (Not that the Pope wouldn't throw science in Prison if he could, But then I'm no fan of the Pope anyway.) Child Molestation is not a medical condition. Child Molestation is a crime. It's always a crime because it's always an action which hurts another person. There are varying degrees to which it is wrong because there are e varying degrees to which it hurts another person. Raping a child is more wrong than sexually fondling a child. You're creepy if you don't agree with the Pope that there are varying degrees. It would take a creepy person to see sexually fondling a child as being no different than raping a child. The Pope is right and you're wrong. Looking at live-action video or still photographs of Child Pornography is less wrong than raping a child. It's still wrong, and it's still a crime. Looking at it, creates a market demand for raping or sexually fondling a child. But it takes more than one customer to create enough demand to cause a child to be raped or sexually fondled, so it's less wrong than raping a child. .Looking at Live-Action or Photograph-stills of Child Pornography is therefore equally wrong as sexually fondling a child. Looking at animations and drawings depicting Child Molestation is wrong. It's wrong because it creates a market demand for Live-Action and Photograph Stills of Raping or sexually fondling a child. It takes more than one customer of animation or drawings of raping or sexually fondling a child, to create a demand for Live-Action and Photograph Stills of Raping or sexually fondling a child. So it's less wrong than Looking at Live-action video of Raping or sexually fondling a child, and it's less wrong than sexually fondling a child. Don't get me wrong, I recommend the death penalty for all of the above, including Pedophilia. Maybe the Pope does too, have you asked him? Or were you too busy mentally exaggerating his true statements, into him cheering for hurting children? Killing all Pedophiles would prevent all Child Rape and Child Sexual fondling. Killing in self-defense is okay, and to quote Michael Jackson (Ironic?) We Are The Children. There is no self-defense truer than that of killing all Pedophiles. Pedophilia isn't a crime and it isn't wrong, we just should kill them all, that's all.

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    Re: Cardinal says paedophilia 'not a criminal condition'

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    When those in charge have covered up crimes time and time again, when those in charge refuse to accept that actions of some of their members are criminal - what should governments do?




    Denying reality is not the way for the Church to move forward.

    Exactly. This is way beyond rationalizing. This is twisted and contorted justification.
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    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    Re: Cardinal says paedophilia 'not a criminal condition'

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanWoman76 View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the Pope. I'm an American and I believe it's morally wrong to participate into elevating a human being to a social status above other humans, and I'm a Protestant and I believe it's morally wrong to participate in elevating a person to spiritual status above other humans. But he is right about this and you are wrong. It is a fact that Pedophilia is an incurable medical condition, not a crime. Pedophilia isn't ever a person's action, and only person's actions can be crimes. Sexual attraction is a chemical reaction, not a choice. Choices can be wrong but chemical reactions are just science. (Not that the Pope wouldn't throw science in Prison if he could, But then I'm no fan of the Pope anyway.) Child Molestation is not a medical condition. Child Molestation is a crime. It's always a crime because it's always an action which hurts another person. There are varying degrees to which it is wrong because there are e varying degrees to which it hurts another person. Raping a child is more wrong than sexually fondling a child. You're creepy if you don't agree with the Pope that there are varying degrees. It would take a creepy person to see sexually fondling a child as being no different than raping a child. The Pope is right and you're wrong. Looking at live-action video or still photographs of Child Pornography is less wrong than raping a child. It's still wrong, and it's still a crime. Looking at it, creates a market demand for raping or sexually fondling a child. But it takes more than one customer to create enough demand to cause a child to be raped or sexually fondled, so it's less wrong than raping a child. .Looking at Live-Action or Photograph-stills of Child Pornography is therefore equally wrong as sexually fondling a child. Looking at animations and drawings depicting Child Molestation is wrong. It's wrong because it creates a market demand for Live-Action and Photograph Stills of Raping or sexually fondling a child. It takes more than one customer of animation or drawings of raping or sexually fondling a child, to create a demand for Live-Action and Photograph Stills of Raping or sexually fondling a child. So it's less wrong than Looking at Live-action video of Raping or sexually fondling a child, and it's less wrong than sexually fondling a child. Don't get me wrong, I recommend the death penalty for all of the above, including Pedophilia. Maybe the Pope does too, have you asked him? Or were you too busy mentally exaggerating his true statements, into him cheering for hurting children? Killing all Pedophiles would prevent all Child Rape and Child Sexual fondling. Killing in self-defense is okay, and to quote Michael Jackson (Ironic?) We Are The Children. There is no self-defense truer than that of killing all Pedophiles. Pedophilia isn't a crime and it isn't wrong, we just should kill them all, that's all.
    Solid wall of text makes baby Jesus cry.

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    Re: Cardinal says paedophilia 'not a criminal condition'

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    Solid wall of text makes baby Jesus cry.
    He's not a baby, he's been an adult for 2,028 years (he was 33 at the edge between B.C. and A.D.) Adults can man-up and read the wall of text.

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    Re: Cardinal says paedophilia 'not a criminal condition'

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    Exactly. This is way beyond rationalizing. This is twisted and contorted justification.
    Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the Pope. I'm an American and I believe it's morally wrong to participate into elevating a human being to a social status above other humans, and I'm a Protestant and I believe it's morally wrong to participate in elevating a person to spiritual status above other humans. But he is right about this and you are wrong. It is a fact that Pedophilia is an incurable medical condition, not a crime. Pedophilia isn't ever a person's action, and only person's actions can be crimes. Sexual attraction is a chemical reaction, not a choice. Choices can be wrong but chemical reactions are just science. (Not that the Pope wouldn't throw science in Prison if he could, But then I'm no fan of the Pope anyway.) Child Molestation is not a medical condition. Child Molestation is a crime. It's always a crime because it's always an action which hurts another person. There are varying degrees to which it is wrong because there are e varying degrees to which it hurts another person. Raping a child is more wrong than sexually fondling a child. You're creepy if you don't agree with the Pope that there are varying degrees. It would take a creepy person to see sexually fondling a child as being no different than raping a child. The Pope is right and you're wrong. Looking at live-action video or still photographs of Child Pornography is less wrong than raping a child. It's still wrong, and it's still a crime. Looking at it, creates a market demand for raping or sexually fondling a child. But it takes more than one customer to create enough demand to cause a child to be raped or sexually fondled, so it's less wrong than raping a child. .Looking at Live-Action or Photograph-stills of Child Pornography is therefore equally wrong as sexually fondling a child. Looking at animations and drawings depicting Child Molestation is wrong. It's wrong because it creates a market demand for Live-Action and Photograph Stills of Raping or sexually fondling a child. It takes more than one customer of animation or drawings of raping or sexually fondling a child, to create a demand for Live-Action and Photograph Stills of Raping or sexually fondling a child. So it's less wrong than Looking at Live-action video of Raping or sexually fondling a child, and it's less wrong than sexually fondling a child. Don't get me wrong, I recommend the death penalty for all of the above, including Pedophilia. Maybe the Pope does too, have you asked him? Or were you too busy mentally exaggerating his true statements, into him cheering for hurting children? Killing all Pedophiles would prevent all Child Rape and Child Sexual fondling. Killing in self-defense is okay, and to quote Michael Jackson (Ironic?) We Are The Children. There is no self-defense truer than that of killing all Pedophiles. Pedophilia isn't a crime and it isn't wrong, we just should kill them all, that's all.

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    Re: Cardinal says paedophilia 'not a criminal condition'

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanWoman76 View Post
    He's not a baby, he's been an adult for 2,028 years (he was 33 at the edge between B.C. and A.D.) Adults can man-up and read the wall of text.
    Adults can hit the enter key every now and again, separating paragraphs into bit sized chunks that more effectively and cleanly express what they're trying to say.

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    Re: Cardinal says paedophilia 'not a criminal condition'

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    Adults can hit the enter key every now and again, separating paragraphs into bit sized chunks that more effectively and cleanly express what they're trying to say.
    touche'

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    Re: Cardinal says paedophilia 'not a criminal condition'

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanWoman76 View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the Pope. I'm an American and I believe it's morally wrong to participate into elevating a human being to a social status above other humans, and I'm a Protestant and I believe it's morally wrong to participate in elevating a person to spiritual status above other humans. But he is right about this and you are wrong. It is a fact that Pedophilia is an incurable medical condition, not a crime. Pedophilia isn't ever a person's action, and only person's actions can be crimes. Sexual attraction is a chemical reaction, not a choice. Choices can be wrong but chemical reactions are just science. (Not that the Pope wouldn't throw science in Prison if he could, But then I'm no fan of the Pope anyway.) Child Molestation is not a medical condition. Child Molestation is a crime. It's always a crime because it's always an action which hurts another person. There are varying degrees to which it is wrong because there are e varying degrees to which it hurts another person. Raping a child is more wrong than sexually fondling a child. You're creepy if you don't agree with the Pope that there are varying degrees. It would take a creepy person to see sexually fondling a child as being no different than raping a child. The Pope is right and you're wrong. Looking at live-action video or still photographs of Child Pornography is less wrong than raping a child. It's still wrong, and it's still a crime. Looking at it, creates a market demand for raping or sexually fondling a child. But it takes more than one customer to create enough demand to cause a child to be raped or sexually fondled, so it's less wrong than raping a child. .Looking at Live-Action or Photograph-stills of Child Pornography is therefore equally wrong as sexually fondling a child. Looking at animations and drawings depicting Child Molestation is wrong. It's wrong because it creates a market demand for Live-Action and Photograph Stills of Raping or sexually fondling a child. It takes more than one customer of animation or drawings of raping or sexually fondling a child, to create a demand for Live-Action and Photograph Stills of Raping or sexually fondling a child. So it's less wrong than Looking at Live-action video of Raping or sexually fondling a child, and it's less wrong than sexually fondling a child. Don't get me wrong, I recommend the death penalty for all of the above, including Pedophilia. Maybe the Pope does too, have you asked him? Or were you too busy mentally exaggerating his true statements, into him cheering for hurting children? Killing all Pedophiles would prevent all Child Rape and Child Sexual fondling. Killing in self-defense is okay, and to quote Michael Jackson (Ironic?) We Are The Children. There is no self-defense truer than that of killing all Pedophiles. Pedophilia isn't a crime and it isn't wrong, we just should kill them all, that's all.
    What's the definition of pedophile if not someone who molests children?

    And if they should be killed, then why do you say it's a medical condition? Should we kill all schizophrenics according to your definition of a pedophile?

    I'm not understanding your leaps. Sorry.
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    Re: Cardinal says paedophilia 'not a criminal condition'

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanWoman76 View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the Pope. I'm an American and I believe it's morally wrong to participate into elevating a human being to a social status above other humans, and I'm a Protestant and I believe it's morally wrong to participate in elevating a person to spiritual status above other humans. But he is right about this and you are wrong. It is a fact that Pedophilia is an incurable medical condition, not a crime. Pedophilia isn't ever a person's action, and only person's actions can be crimes. Sexual attraction is a chemical reaction, not a choice. Choices can be wrong but chemical reactions are just science. (Not that the Pope wouldn't throw science in Prison if he could, But then I'm no fan of the Pope anyway.) Child Molestation is not a medical condition. Child Molestation is a crime. It's always a crime because it's always an action which hurts another person. There are varying degrees to which it is wrong because there are e varying degrees to which it hurts another person. Raping a child is more wrong than sexually fondling a child. You're creepy if you don't agree with the Pope that there are varying degrees. It would take a creepy person to see sexually fondling a child as being no different than raping a child. The Pope is right and you're wrong. Looking at live-action video or still photographs of Child Pornography is less wrong than raping a child. It's still wrong, and it's still a crime. Looking at it, creates a market demand for raping or sexually fondling a child. But it takes more than one customer to create enough demand to cause a child to be raped or sexually fondled, so it's less wrong than raping a child. .Looking at Live-Action or Photograph-stills of Child Pornography is therefore equally wrong as sexually fondling a child. Looking at animations and drawings depicting Child Molestation is wrong. It's wrong because it creates a market demand for Live-Action and Photograph Stills of Raping or sexually fondling a child. It takes more than one customer of animation or drawings of raping or sexually fondling a child, to create a demand for Live-Action and Photograph Stills of Raping or sexually fondling a child. So it's less wrong than Looking at Live-action video of Raping or sexually fondling a child, and it's less wrong than sexually fondling a child. Don't get me wrong, I recommend the death penalty for all of the above, including Pedophilia. Maybe the Pope does too, have you asked him? Or were you too busy mentally exaggerating his true statements, into him cheering for hurting children? Killing all Pedophiles would prevent all Child Rape and Child Sexual fondling. Killing in self-defense is okay, and to quote Michael Jackson (Ironic?) We Are The Children. There is no self-defense truer than that of killing all Pedophiles. Pedophilia isn't a crime and it isn't wrong, we just should kill them all, that's all.
    Being a lover of porn doesn't make you a pedophile. It makes you creepy. But a pedophile molests children. I don't care if they come from being a victim, they are adults who molest children. To try to make this okay because you label it a medical condition is wrong.
    Alex Carey:

    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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