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    Re: Obama Wants Research to Wean Vehicles off Oil.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    So how about we not making it about politics, focus on the benefits we can gain from the research, and make something come of it?



    Which is something that most corporate leaders and owners don't care about. They want to get paid today, and they want to get paid as much as possible today. Who cares if the company disappears in ten years? Their pockets will be lined long before that happens. That is the mentality that American big business takes, and it's the source of a lot of our ills.



    Because quality of life and profit don't go hand in hand. It's more profitable to keep slaves. It's more profitable to operate a police state. Profit does not mean a better life. Generations to come having clean air and water does not translate into profit today.
    Completely false. If slavery was more profitable, Africa would be the richest continent instead of the poorest ^^

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    Re: Obama Wants Research to Wean Vehicles off Oil.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Completely false. If slavery was more profitable, Africa would be the richest continent instead of the poorest ^^
    And the Southern United States would have been far richer than the Northern United States, but that was not the case.

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    Re: Obama Wants Research to Wean Vehicles off Oil.....

    Don't we already have synthetic oil which is supposed to really be the cat's meow?

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    Re: Obama Wants Research to Wean Vehicles off Oil.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, if it was such a groovy idea, the oil companies would have already cornered the market
    Yeah, just like the railroads cornered the market on air transport and the stage lines on bus traffic... Yes, and of course there is always Xerox Acrobat for document management... and wasn't Texas Instrument originally a slide rule company before they become the dominate player in electronic spreadsheets?

    You are missing the fatal flaw of Adam Smith. We do not have a pure free enterprise economy... far from it. Monopolies and Oligopolies are not all that efficient. Their only interest, typically, is in protecting their monopoly. It is much more cost effective for the oil companies to wage a PR and lobby campaign against the idea of government involvement in cultivating alternative energy sources than to actually participate in the research. No point in spending money just to cut your own grass.
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    Re: Obama Wants Research to Wean Vehicles off Oil.....

    First of all, I can't blame President Post Turtle. He doesn't seem to have a lick of sense, and when one of his PCLL handlers feeds him some mindless malarkey, he just proposes it to go into legislation and public policy without a second thought to what the hell he/they are doing.

    To begin with, nobody with a $15+Tn debt and ever increasing deficit budgets has any business spending money on anything but necessities and debt.

    To end with, anyone who had even a moment of conscious thought would be expending their effort on how to STOP wasting energy, not new and better ways to waste more to perpetuate an unsustainable lifestyle.

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    Re: Obama Wants Research to Wean Vehicles off Oil.....

    Quote Originally Posted by penn1954 View Post
    This guy is a freaking idiot!

    We have tons of natural gas,vehicles will run

    on it nicely and it is cleaner than gasoline.

    Makes perfect sense to spend tons of $ on

    electric cars when we can't build power plants!
    Err... did ya only read the bolded parts in the OP?

    Researchers also would look to improve use of natural gas as a fuel for cars and trucks.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Obama Wants Research to Wean Vehicles off Oil.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Don't we already have synthetic oil which is supposed to really be the cat's meow?
    We do? Pray tell...
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Obama Wants Research to Wean Vehicles off Oil.....

    Quote Originally Posted by cannuck View Post

    To begin with, nobody with a $15+Tn debt and ever increasing deficit budgets has any business spending money on anything but necessities and debt.
    Yes, of course. Nary a cent has been spent on more tanks and bombs.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Obama Wants Research to Wean Vehicles off Oil.....

    This is a step in the right direction. However, it is going to be slow. We should do more now as well. For example, place restrictions on SUVs. If you want to drive a SUV, you should be able to show why you need it. At the very least, tax SUV drivers exponentially more.

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    Re: Obama Wants Research to Wean Vehicles off Oil.....

    We can't afford to keep the White House open, but have $200 million a year for more pipe dreams.

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