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    Re: Obama Wants Research to Wean Vehicles off Oil.....

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    How long would my 400 mile trip to visit my grandchild take?
    Depends on how many stops you choose to make when driving a rental hybrid car 400 miles to where your grandchild lives.
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    Re: Obama Wants Research to Wean Vehicles off Oil.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Depends on how many stops you choose to make when driving a rental hybrid car 400 miles to where your grandchild lives.
    I don't stop, and can now generally make the trip in less than seven hours...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Obama Wants Research to Wean Vehicles off Oil.....

    Quote Originally Posted by straykatz View Post
    It is not in the oil companies best interest to have an alternative fuel source available, especially if it is cheaper. There is not way oil companies will go down without kicking and screaming. You can be sure they already do everything in their power and financially to prevent any competition with alternative fuels.
    Why not? Please explain to us why it's not in the interest of the oil companies to make money?

    It's the oil companies that are pushing natural gas as auto fuel. Currently, it's half the price per unit of gasoline and it costs just as much for the oil companies to get it out of the ground.

    Your notion is erroneous and ill informed.
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    Re: Obama Wants Research to Wean Vehicles off Oil.....

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    How long would my 400 mile trip to visit my grandchild take?
    You can't go 400 miles in an electric car. That's the whole point. It's another step in the process of breaking down the independence of the average American citizen.
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    Re: Obama Wants Research to Wean Vehicles off Oil.....

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I don't stop, and can now generally make the trip in less than seven hours...
    It should take you no longer in a hybrid car.
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    Re: Obama Wants Research to Wean Vehicles off Oil.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yep, and with hybrid electrical systems like mine, people can use on-site solar power when the sun is shining and use grid power when its not, cutting the usage of grid power significantly.
    We have one HUGE building at the farm that is 100% off grid and our corporate cabin on a mountain top is not only all off-grid, but 100% on line. I am still a rank amateur at this, but some day if I ever manage to make enough money, I would like to build my last home similar to what you have: active solar heat supplementing ground heat pump, wind for basic power and grid when no wind - maybe some solar to support summer cooling (but fully designed as passive solar with massive heat sinks). Not pretending that would be cheap, but...well, you know why I would do it. My business partner down in WY built a house for his sister that has extremely effective passive solar heat and passive natural vent for cooling (in ground pipe in gulley gives cool air that circulates up and out through opening ridge windows that are for solar in summer). Also a semi-underground home (Northern exposure). Near zero carbon footprint in operation (does have natural gas for makeup heat, electric for lighting - does NOT need any a/c).

    It just takes a little thinking and a lot of work or a fair chunk of change if you can't swing the former two.

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    Re: Obama Wants Research to Wean Vehicles off Oil.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Quote where they show different numbers for oil imports for the US, Canada, and Mexico.
    Canada and Mexico also consume more oil than they produce.
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    Re: Obama Wants Research to Wean Vehicles off Oil.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You can't go 400 miles in an electric car. That's the whole point. It's another step in the process of breaking down the independence of the average American citizen.
    That sounds a bit nutter and paranoid. Why can't if just be a simple effort to plan for the future?

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    Re: Obama Wants Research to Wean Vehicles off Oil.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You're clearly not listening.
    Just because you find the law inconvinient doesnt mean you can ignore it. There is a process for changing it. You should either pursue that process by convincing people to support your change, accept that you cant change it, or remove yourself from the system. Until then, the law is the law.

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    Re: Obama Wants Research to Wean Vehicles off Oil.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You can't go 400 miles in an electric car. That's the whole point. It's another step in the process of breaking down the independence of the average American citizen.
    The unfortunate reality is that far too many Canadians and Americans enjoy all of the independence and personal freedoms without the bother of taking the personal responsibility for their impact on their environment, their fellow citizens, citizens of the world and citizens of the future.

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