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    Re: U.S. drone strikes violate Pakistan's sovereignty: U.N.[W:15]

    Quote Originally Posted by WWGWD View Post
    I think this might actually be a topic you can get the far right and the far left to agreee on!! lol. It should really say something to the President, that the country as a whole thinks his entire drone policy is wack. Maybe we can start to bring the two sides back together, with this issue.
    It is refreshing to see at least a few people on the left, those who normally support every breath that escapes this President's mouth, question the morality and legality of this program. I'm fully supportive of the use of drones in war zones - use them in Afghanistan, even into the disputed mountainous border regions between Afghanistan and Pakistan, all you want - using them further into Pakistan and in Yemen, Somalia, etc. is far less justified, particularly when so many innocent people in the thousands have been slaughtered by drones.

    Rand Paul, regardless of how you view him or his politics, did your country a great service by highlighting the drone program and making it front page, top of program, news for at least a couple of days. I'm sure the calls and emails from constituents into their member of congress on both sides has made oversight of this program a new priority.

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    Re: U.S. drone strikes violate Pakistan's sovereignty: U.N.[W:15]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    It is refreshing to see at least a few people on the left, those who normally support every breath that escapes this President's mouth, question the morality and legality of this program. I'm fully supportive of the use of drones in war zones - use them in Afghanistan, even into the disputed mountainous border regions between Afghanistan and Pakistan, all you want - using them further into Pakistan and in Yemen, Somalia, etc. is far less justified, particularly when so many innocent people in the thousands have been slaughtered by drones.

    Rand Paul, regardless of how you view him or his politics, did your country a great service by highlighting the drone program and making it front page, top of program, news for at least a couple of days. I'm sure the calls and emails from constituents into their member of congress on both sides has made oversight of this program a new priority.
    I would agree that it is refreshing, though I am no way, nor have I ever been someone who supports the President unilaterally. I voted for him because he was the lesser of two evils in my opinion, but I don't support a lot of the overall decisions he makes. Most notably so, being the drone policy, and really the overreaching use of the CIA as a whole. That is something that has been gathering steam through the last two presidencies and is real source of concern for me.

    As much as I dislike Senator Paul as a politician, I was absolutely appreciative of his conviction on this issue. I would never in a million years vote for him, but I can always appreciate someone who has the balls to actually filibuster the way it was intended. Hopefully, it drives more of the electorate to pay more attention to what's going on in DC. Rather then watching Meet the Press or FOX and Friends once a week and calling it good.
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    Re: U.S. drone strikes violate Pakistan's sovereignty: U.N.[W:15]

    Kinda a segway but being a big American History geek I always like to find comparisons between current events and events in US history. The drone strike campaign in Pakistan, Yemen, and the African Horn strikes me as some-what a parallel to many of the campaigns waged by the United States against the American Indian tribes of the Plains and Southern-West during the later half of the 19th century (allusive enemy, lots of collateral damage, justification of atrocity through fears of violence against American civilians, etc).

    What I find most interesting is the lack of outrage over these drone attacks, either via the main-stream press, or among the US population, or any vocal authority figure for that matter...despite the large number of civilian deaths. During the 19th century there tended to be widespread outrage over incidents such as the Sand Creek Massacre ( Sand Creek massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ), even calls and attempts to put army officers on trial for their roles in the various incidents. It makes me wonder if we truly have come as far as we think we have, especially in the light of the fact that our current administration claims to be "progressive".

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