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    Re: GOP senator reverses gay-marriage stance after son comes out

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    Several states. Image X state decides to not recognize an interracial marriage or a marriage overseas?
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    Re: GOP senator reverses gay-marriage stance after son comes out

    If I had to wager who has the best chance of getting the GOP nomination in 2016 this far out, it would have been Portman even before this.

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    Funny how the peoples' issues only matter to such politicians when it happens to them personally. Other than those times... ****-em' seems to be the leadership style.
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    Re: GOP senator reverses gay-marriage stance after son comes out

    I think politicians who don't come to these conclusions until someone close to them comes out lack empathy.

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    Re: GOP senator reverses gay-marriage stance after son comes out

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    I think politicians who don't come to these conclusions until someone close to them comes out lack empathy.
    Not at all. Politicians are like anyone. They are trying to sustain their livelihood and in their case that means selling an image of themselves to voters that emphasizes a particular set of policies and values. It is easy for them to find reasons to justify just about any particular set of beliefs as long as they have no personal stake in the matter. It isn't that they can't care, but rather they have no incentive to care.
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    Re: GOP senator reverses gay-marriage stance after son comes out

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Not at all. Politicians are like anyone. They are trying to sustain their livelihood and in their case that means selling an image of themselves to voters that emphasizes a particular set of policies and values. It is easy for them to find reasons to justify just about any particular set of beliefs as long as they have no personal stake in the matter. It isn't that they can't care, but rather they have no incentive to care.
    What livelihood? One term and they get a pension. I'd suggest it is ego more than anything else.

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    Re: GOP senator reverses gay-marriage stance after son comes out

    What crack's me up most about this thread is that people seem to be more concerned with him being called a RHINO by members here than scoring another win for SSM. What a bunch of numbskulls. I mean I am a conservative and a Christian, and I support SSM so WTF.
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    Re: GOP senator reverses gay-marriage stance after son comes out

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    What crack's me up most about this thread is that people seem to be more concerned with him being called a RHINO by members here than scoring another win for SSM. What a bunch of numbskulls. I mean I am a conservative and a Christian, and I support SSM so WTF.
    How was it a win for SSM? There is plenty of SSM opposition ready to take his place. It is just a politician who changed his stance for personal reasons. He made an excellent case that will likely be the blueprint for the GOP's eventual transition to tolerance of same sex marriage but that has been made time and time again by GOP Millennials who value the conservative values inherent in SSM and who would like to see this treated as a states issue rather than a federal issue.
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    Re: GOP senator reverses gay-marriage stance after son comes out

    I find his change of heart appalling. I didn't care for him before and now I really don't like him. Why is it that now (2yrs ago) that he has a gay son, now all of a sudden he's for gay marriage. Why couldn't he have said that when he was a potential VP candidate? Because he felt it would automaticly eliminate his chance of becoming VP. Personally I have no problem with gay marriage....to each his own. Who cares who is with who....as long as you love and care for each other. My question is this. Does every anti-gay politician have to have a gay family member come out in order for them to become rational politician? If that's the case every politician in DC should have an immediate family member join the military. And let's see have soon these wars would end. Pretty quick I'd imagine.

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    Re: GOP senator reverses gay-marriage stance after son comes out

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    How was it a win for SSM? There is plenty of SSM opposition ready to take his place. It is just a politician who changed his stance for personal reasons.
    Little steps are better than nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    He made an excellent case that will likely be the blueprint for the GOP's eventual transition to tolerance of same sex marriage but that has been made time and time again by GOP Millennials who value the conservative values inherent in SSM and who would like to see this treated as a states issue rather than a federal issue.
    Yes he did. This however changes nothing I said, nor does it even apply?
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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