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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

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    I have no problem with what you are saying, just have the government be so kind as to give me back everything I have paid into SS, and Medicare, and I'll say fine do away with it.
    I'm not saying we should do away with SS and Medicare. You have paid into it, and are entitled to it. I'm saying that the means tested welfare that we didn't pay into is not an entitlement.
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

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    Well, lay out what subsidies you are talking about. As for giveaways to foreign nations, I am right there with ya on that one. But, the only problem is that we are constantly told that those are a drop in the bucket....However, I do love how Obama just had to tell kids from Kansas or where ever, that no white house tours could take place, but magically found some $250 million dollars to give to Egypt, a country that has a leader who as of late has been standing with radicals in his country chanting "death to America, and Israel"....
    Yes, and a few F 16s as well as a gift of money from the US taxpayer. You'd be hard pressed to find any country that hasn't received a gift from Uncle Sam, including a lot of nations that are not exactly friendly to the west.

    As for those subsidies, I've already mentioned food stamps as a subsidy to food producers. Then, there's agricultural subsidies of all sorts, including payment for not growing one thing or another, water projects that provide below cost irrigation, the bailouts of GM and of the "too big to fail" banks, a whole long list of money that has been paid out mostly to wealthy donors to political campaigns. I read that they finally did do away with that ethanol subsidy, though.
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

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    What a failure progressive policy is....



    Just remember who to blame when this all collapses....
    And this is one of the main reasons why the cons will continue to lose elections. Just look at the disdain that they have for people that are poor.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

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    And this is one of the main reasons why the cons will continue to lose elections. Just look at the disdain that they have for people that are poor.
    It might produce better results to understand why people accept poverty as a way of life...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Yes, and a few F 16s as well as a gift of money from the US taxpayer. You'd be hard pressed to find any country that hasn't received a gift from Uncle Sam, including a lot of nations that are not exactly friendly to the west.
    No doubt, Like Obama's $90 million to Hamas in 2009.

    As for those subsidies, I've already mentioned food stamps as a subsidy to food producers. Then, there's agricultural subsidies of all sorts, including payment for not growing one thing or another, water projects that provide below cost irrigation...
    I agree, but tell me what you think that would do to the cost of food in this day and age?

    the bailouts of GM and of the "too big to fail" banks, a whole long list of money that has been paid out mostly to wealthy donors to political campaigns.
    Again I agree, I don't think you'll find one conservative that believes that bailing out GM or the banks was a wise thing to do. As for donors, that was the stimulus I believe...Much of that was questionable as to the legality of it, but with a politicized AG, nothing happens.... Precedents are set. Thanks Progressives.

    I read that they finally did do away with that ethanol subsidy, though.
    Yes, and instead we are flushing 10 times the amounts down the drain on so called 'green energy' as payoffs to Obama supporters so that their company goes belly up a year later.
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    And this is one of the main reasons why the cons will continue to lose elections. Just look at the disdain that they have for people that are poor.
    I don't think it's a disdain for the poor that causes them to continually loose national elections. It's a total and complete lack of understanding as to what causes someone to be poor, and the challenges that face anyone trying to get out of poverty. The impression I have always gotten from people born into wealth, is that think anyone is not wealthy, doesn't work hard enough and is lazy. It's truly a sad commentary on the disconnect between the socio economics status in this country.
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    And this is one of the main reasons why the cons will continue to lose elections. Just look at the disdain that they have for people that are poor.
    Nonsense....Where did you come up with that lie?
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

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    I don't think it's a disdain for the poor that causes them to continually loose national elections. It's a total and complete lack of understanding as to what causes someone to be poor, and the challenges that face anyone trying to get out of poverty. The impression I have always gotten from people born into wealth, is that think anyone is not wealthy, doesn't work hard enough and is lazy. It's truly a sad commentary on the disconnect between the socio economics status in this country.
    With the laundry list of entitlement programs that exist now, if you're still in poverty you have yourself to blame. Of course, even if you are, you're still getting floated along like dead wood.

    If anything, these programs are perpetuating poverty, not trying to help people to climb out of it. Why try when you can do flip and still rob the taxpayer coffers?

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    With the laundry list of entitlement programs that exist now, if you're still in poverty you have yourself to blame. Of course, even if you are, you're still getting floated along like dead wood.

    If anything, these programs are perpetuating poverty, not trying to help people to climb out of it. Why try when you can do flip and still rob the taxpayer coffers?
    I always liked those charts that showed in countries that had high unmployment, and massive government entitlement programs for long periods of time, that when the government cut back the amounts of time that people could be on them, surprise, surprise those participation rates mirrored the amounts of time allowed....
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    With the laundry list of entitlement programs that exist now, if you're still in poverty you have yourself to blame. Of course, even if you are, you're still getting floated along like dead wood.

    If anything, these programs are perpetuating poverty, not trying to help people to climb out of it. Why try when you can do flip and still rob the taxpayer coffers?
    Yea, I couldn't disagree with you more, but that's probably not surprising you, lol.

    I've worked with thousands for homeless people, single mothers on food stamps, senior citizens who lost their savings in the stock market crash. There is a multitude of reason someone needs help. From personal experience, I have encountered far more people painfully embarressed that they are food stamps for any length of time, then I encountered people scaming the system.

    I am not at all saying that there are not people who work the system, there are plenty and that should be addressed. However, if you think that is the majority, I believe you are sorely miss informed.
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