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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    The only difference between a Romney and Obama presidency is the people who are mad and the people who are blindlessly defending the president would be reversed.
    The country had a chance with Romney.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Oh i realize it was begun in 1984 and, as usual, with all the good intentions that lead to such waste. But Obama supporters are the ones who made these 'free' phones famous. Vote for Obama and you get a free Obamaphone!! Another example of the government bribing the people with their own money.

    Just read the first two sentences!


    Think some of the electorate might have been bribed with Obamaphones??? Of course if it wasn't Obamaphones it would have been food stamps or something else.
    So it is not bribery when a republican does it, but it is when a democrat does?

    Don't get me wrong i half agree with you. Politicians use things like people's greed all the time in order to manipulate them in government. I think you are more upset that a republican didnt think to exploit the greed in this manner first.
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    So it is not bribery when a republican does it, but it is when a democrat does?
    Is that the message you got? Do you have any evidence that anyone was ever bribed with a Reaganphone?

    Don't get me wrong i half agree with you. Politicians use things like people's greed all the time in order to manipulate them in government. I think you are more upset that a republican didnt think to exploit the greed in this manner first.
    Think whatever you want, but i do not support corruption from any politician or party.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Liberal, conservative, republican, democrat
    means nothing to true. The recession started before he did anything. That's just a fact.

    And do you really believe any politicians rhetoric is equal to truth? Seriously. Sure, they are hoping it will get better so they can take credit. But let's not confuse that with what they can really do.

    It started, it bottomed out prior to the stimulus and has been perpetuated for over 4 years now.

    Its not the Conservatives fault that Liberals and Democrats are either too arrogant or too ignorant to understand what kind of impact a President and a Congress can have on the private sector.

    And with NO private sector participation there is NO economy.

    So with Obama's rhetoric, from everything from "you didn't build this, to his "eat the rich" nonsense, to his threatened tax increases, his increased regulations through the EPA and the highly destructive ObamaCare law, to say the Presidents somehow disconnected from the actions of Corporations is really NAIVE.

    Its purposely NAIVE.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    It started, it bottomed out prior to the stimulus and has been perpetuated for over 4 years now.

    Its not the Conservatives fault that Liberals and Democrats are either too arrogant or too ignorant to understand what kind of impact a President and a Congress can have on the private sector.

    And with NO private sector participation there is NO economy.

    So with Obama's rhetoric, from everything from "you didn't build this, to his "eat the rich" nonsense, to his threatened tax increases, his increased regulations through the EPA and the highly destructive ObamaCare law, to say the Presidents somehow disconnected from the actions of Corporations is really NAIVE.

    Its purposely NAIVE.
    Or that some believe too much, as you seem to, that government is the answer.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Is that the message you got? Do you have any evidence that anyone was ever bribed with a Reaganphone?
    If Reagan launched the program that you are now claiming is bribery then what more evidence do you need? If one is bribery then the other is. Is it really so difficult to judge both parties and all politicians by the same standard? If it is wrong for one president to do it, then it is wrong for any president to do the same thing. Or politician. You either think it is bribery and it is wrong or you don't.
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    About those free "Obamaphones":
    The so called "lifeline" program to provide free phones to the poor was started during the Reagan Administration, expanded during the Clinton Administration, expanded to include cell phones during Bush II.

    So, they're really Reclibush phones, right?

    Oh, and the Reclibush phones aren't paid for with tax money.
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    About those free "Obamaphones":
    The so called "lifeline" program to provide free phones to the poor was started during the Reagan Administration, expanded during the Clinton Administration, expanded to include cell phones during Bush II.

    So, they're really Reclibush phones, right?

    Oh, and the Reclibush phones aren't paid for with tax money.
    Sure they are, it's just a hidden tax in your phone bill...
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Or that some believe too much, as you seem to, that government is the answer.
    Jesus! I swear Joe, I don't know what makes me more mad, your circular logic, your egocentric manner of posting as if you and you alone have all the answers, or that it is all logical fallacy, after logical fallacy with you. But, I think in your quest to constantly get jabs in at posters sometimes you stumble on a point...

    "Some do believe too much".... Some actually believe that Obama doesn't base, and calculate every action, every word on political gain....Sad really...
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Jesus! I swear Joe, I don't know what makes me more mad, your circular logic, your egocentric manner of posting as if you and you alone have all the answers, or that it is all logical fallacy, after logical fallacy with you. But, I think in your quest to constantly get jabs in at posters sometimes you stumble on a point...

    "Some do believe too much".... Some actually believe that Obama doesn't base, and calculate every action, every word on political gain....Sad really...
    J, what is circular is your often misreading of my comments. I've made very clear and coherent arguments. The joke is that some of see no other cause for anything but the government. That can only be true if the government controls everything. If they do, then government really is the answer.

    That's the argument you and a few others are trying to make, wildly and often Inaccurately blaming every single thing on Obama. Doing that is illogical.
    Last edited by Boo Radley; 04-11-13 at 09:22 PM.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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