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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Un biased View Post
    Thanks for clarifaction
    No Problem. What is a shame is that in the past the churches or other groups would take up the cause and help these people. Instead we have now expanded the governments role as care taker. Once certain people figured this system out they have completely consumed it.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt Racer View Post
    I am certainly not speaking of someone in your Step Sister's fathers condition. I have absolutely no issue with people who have a genuine handicap receiving assistance. I have an Aunt that is mentally handicapped and receives assistance.

    In fact I feel these are the only reasons people should get permanent assistance. Those that fall on hard times should only be eligible for short term assistance. These programs are being abused by the dregs of society and make it difficult for those who really need it to receive or survive off of it.
    Most people on food stamps get off after one year. (Fox Ignores Food Stamp Facts To Push "Dependency" Myth | Research | Media Matters for America)
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I understand there is a time limit for assistance, but I have witnessed first hand the creative ways folks work the system in order to continue receiving. I also believe this is a state to state issue where the rules are different.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    NYC should outlaw food stamps. What good do they do?

    You could make 50 grand a year working in NYC and be lucky to not require a roommate or 3 in a studio apartment just to scrape by.

    Dunno how in the bloody hell you can make it on stamps.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    So does the government.
    Well that makes it ok for a private company to use food stamps to subsidize pay?

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That has to do with qualifications. But $1500 a month is hardly matching the professions you listed. Which is what I responded too. No one is getting rich on minimum wage.
    Again you missed the point. Since a minimum (or low) wage worker need not actually improve their education or productivity to earn more, as now they simply "qualify" for more by adding dependents, that does not encourage them to do so. What it does encourage, however, is simply voting for folks promising to keep that little reward for failure in place or, better yet, to increase it.
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's not how the concept of a living wage works.
    It certainly does under our current public assistance system based on actual income, cost of living and number of dependents. It allows for two people working the exact same job to get different effective incomes for the same labor.
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Again you missed the point. Since a minimum (or low) wage worker need not actually improve their education or productivity to earn more, as now they simply "qualify" for more by adding dependents, that does not encourage them to do so. What it does encourage, however, is simply voting for folks promising to keep that little reward for failure in place or, better yet, to increase it.
    That is simply not true. No one is going to successfully raise a family on those wages. And history shows when there was no government help, poor people still existed, suffered, and in some times, their numbers were rather large. So, poverty did not motivate enough or assure everyone was successful. No one successful person would trade places with someone as you describe. I don't really accept your premise. However, I wold love to see the fair, proper and verifiable studies I spoke of earlier.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    It sustained Obama's first term and won him a second. 94% of congress critters won re-election in 2012. It is sustainable until the voters say otherwise. I agree that things will be very, very out of control when "austerity day" finally comes, yet until then, it is not a problem politically. The gov't gets bigger and the rich get richer, when (not if) the deal goes bad then the rich still have many options that the rest of us lack.
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That has to do with qualifications. But $1500 a month is hardly matching the professions you listed. Which is what I responded too. No one is getting rich on minimum wage.
    No one except perhaps for the people who hire minimum wage workers then expect the rest of us to subsidize their employees.
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