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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Amazing how studies have shown that people living off "the dole" as it were, tend to get back to work at what ever point that free stuff ends isn't it....
    Not sure that's true. Before "free stuff" we still had out of work poor people. Maybe you just read studies by biased researchers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nothing. It should be a market exercise....The problem we have now is too much government meddling.
    That led to unions, which government has weakened for business.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not sure that's true. Before "free stuff" we still had out of work poor people. Maybe you just read studies by biased researchers?
    And I am not sure that your dismissal of the studies showing this, isn't based solely on your own bias. :
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That led to unions, which government has weakened for business.
    Although it is true enough that there is a balance, tilting too far one way or the other is not good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Although it is true enough that there is a balance, tilting too far one way or the other is not good.
    I have always stated that. The trouble I see on your side is the tendency to only see one side of the problem. Too willing to give business the complete advantage. But there does need to be balance.

    Welfare, however, is another issue. No matter what we do, there will always be poor and unemployed. The question is how do we handle that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I have always stated that. The trouble I see on your side is the tendency to only see one side of the problem. Too willing to give business the complete advantage. But there does need to be balance.

    Welfare, however, is another issue. No matter what we do, there will always be poor and unemployed. The question is how do we handle that?
    Ok, so then can we say that the so called "war on poverty" is a tremendous failure then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, so then can we say that the so called "war on poverty" is a tremendous failure then?
    No. Not perfect, but not a failure. People live better today on the whole than they did before. Hands down. It's not even close. But, poverty is not something that really can be completely defeated. Not in our world.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No. Not perfect, but not a failure. People live better today on the whole than they did before. Hands down. It's not even close. But, poverty is not something that really can be completely defeated. Not in our world.
    Shouldn't there have at least been some progress? As far as I know, the WoP when started was to address a poverty rate of around 12% of the population. Today, the poverty rate is higher than that....Success?
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No. Not perfect, but not a failure. People live better today on the whole than they did before. Hands down. It's not even close. But, poverty is not something that really can be completely defeated. Not in our world.
    And it Willi never be defeated because of the way poverty is measured.. If people are living better than they ever did before, how is that poverty?
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    What a rant and
    rave on anti-unions and government. Seems you on the right LOVE big government when it benefits corporations. All that money spent on Homeland security just to help out the MIC getting more money for more weapons on our streets.

    And you LOVE big government when it comes to interfering in personal lives of people. Let's have abortion police monitor when a woman buys a pregnancy test and then follow her see if she's going to have an abortion.

    And you LOVE big government when it comes to rah rah two wars and get them middle easterners and spend all that money sending troops overseas and building 750 bases in 36 countries to protect corporate interests abroad. Yeah, SPEND that big government money helping the rich get bigger.

    Tell you what, when you practice what you preach on the right, we can have a discussion about small government and less spending. Until then, all we have are differences on where we think big government should be put helping out our nation grown.
    Thats a bit desperate dont you think ?

    Practice what I preach ? When did I ever say it was ok to follow a pregnant women around ?

    And if you have a problem with those two wars contact your Democrat Representitive. Chances are they voted for it.

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