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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, let them get the training they need, take responsibility for themselves, and develop a work ethic.
    The lazy, degenerate pieces of ****s who only live to abuse the welfare system have always been there, always will be. As we are continuing to see unemployment rise, underemployment rise, those who have given up rise we have to ask why and where are they coming from? They are not coming from a healthy economy. These are trained, hard working people with a great work ethic who don't have the opportunity to make a decent wage. All the training in the world, the world's greatest work ethic in the history of Earth will do you no good if there aren't any oppontunities to use it.
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I advocate no federal income based assistance for any able bodied adult. Unlike the federal gov't, that depends on borrowing over $3 billion per day, states would (could?) not be nearly so generous (foolish?) as to simply support those that can (will?) not support themselves. Working to support oneself (and any dependents) should not be simply an "option" for any non-disabled person. Since the introduction of the federal "great society" social programs of the 1960's the out of wedlock birthrate has soared such that now 30% of white, 50% of hispanic and 70% of black children are now born out of wedlock. This may be great for getting demorat votes, but hurts the nation as a whole. We, as a nation, cannot continue to support 46 million people with federal income "assistance" until "things get better".
    Things can never get better with half the country working and the other half reliant on the government. And, with an aging population and ever-increasing debt, that situation isn't going to improve any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Quite right.

    I'm against anyone being exploited. I suppose you are too.
    Yes I am. And more importantly I am against the government and consumers who allow it to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Things can never get better with half the country working and the other half reliant on the government. And, with an aging population and ever-increasing debt, that situation isn't going to improve any time soon.
    And how do we rectify that?
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    When you are hungry or cold, or your kids or family are, you will allow yourself to be.
    Don't speak about things you have no clue about...I was there....Bankrupt, lost the house, cars, every thing, and have lived a pretty rough life since the wife and I got married 25 years ago...But, I never blamed others that had more for my problems, instead I found out what I could do to learn a skill, and get to it making money. I take runs when no one else will, and I don't turn down any extra my company offers...As a result, I make a pretty good living now, and have pulled ourselves up on our own, without EVER taking a dime in welfare. How many out there that constantly whine about 'greed, the rich, or inequity' can say the same?
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    The lazy, degenerate pieces of ****s who only live to abuse the welfare system have always been there, always will be. As we are continuing to see unemployment rise, underemployment rise, those who have given up rise we have to ask why and where are they coming from? They are not coming from a healthy economy. These are trained, hard working people with a great work ethic who don't have the opportunity to make a decent wage. All the training in the world, the world's greatest work ethic in the history of Earth will do you no good if there aren't any oppontunities to use it.
    When I was out of work I started a small business. There are many opportunities around where other people can do the same. Just look around and imagine.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    The lazy, degenerate pieces of ****s who only live to abuse the welfare system have always been there, always will be. As we are continuing to see unemployment rise, underemployment rise, those who have given up rise we have to ask why and where are they coming from? They are not coming from a healthy economy. These are trained, hard working people with a great work ethic who don't have the opportunity to make a decent wage. All the training in the world, the world's greatest work ethic in the history of Earth will do you no good if there aren't any oppontunities to use it.
    Yeah? And why are we told then that the economy is recovering? It is such BS!
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    And how do we rectify that?
    I don't think you can. It's too late. The American electorate demonstrated in the last election that they were not serious about debt or the future and opted to go deeper in debt and continue the drift.

    Unless the American people act together to get things done, and look to the past as to why they enjoyed such success, then there is little chance of a turnaround.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    And how do we rectify that?
    A good start would be to make a HS education and a steady employment history into a prerequisite for ANY public assistance.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    I am thinking that not doing away with the time limits on eligibility would be a good start...
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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