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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    The current customary function when a president is re-elected, is for his/her cabinet to submit their resignations. The president then makes whatever decision to keep or not keep someone in their respective office. The same practice would work here.

    First, change the requirements for food stamps based on economic status ONLY If you make less than the current poverty level, you qualify, with special rules for owning any valuable property, have a reasonable saving account or financial worth. In other words, if you can afford to buy your own food, then you do NOT qualify for food stamps. Then, anyone who is currently receiving this benefit, must re-apply for it or it expires within 3 months.

    There is nothing more disgusting than watching a food stamp user, get into their Lexus and drive away while chatting on their $500 iPhone.

    Give the benefit to those who really need it, and stop the fraud and waste.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman909 View Post
    The current customary function when a president is re-elected, is for his/her cabinet to submit their resignations. The president then makes whatever decision to keep or not keep someone in their respective office. The same practice would work here.

    First, change the requirements for food stamps based on economic status ONLY If you make less than the current poverty level, you qualify, with special rules for owning any valuable property, have a reasonable saving account or financial worth. In other words, if you can afford to buy your own food, then you do NOT qualify for food stamps. Then, anyone who is currently receiving this benefit, must re-apply for it or it expires within 3 months.

    There is nothing more disgusting than watching a food stamp user, get into their Lexus and drive away while chatting on their $500 iPhone.

    Give the benefit to those who really need it, and stop the fraud and waste.
    Better to just stop food stamps. It may have been needed during the great depression but certainly not now. People should be helping each other rather than the government using tax dollars with which to bribe the electorate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What sort of government jobs do you have in mind?

    And how would that help the private sector?
    How about improving our infrastructure? Construction jobs. How about increasing the park rangers and visitors bureaus to national parks? how about increasing the number of Social Security offices and staff to meet the increasing needs of the baby boomers applying? How about creating federal mental health facilities in each state and filling them full of staff?

    Where to get the money?

    How about closing the 750 overseas bases in 36 countries used to protect American multinational companies from the striking workers? How about stopping the building of obsolete weapons? How about demanding that the weapons built overseas by foreigners for our MIC be done here? How about stopping welfare subsidies to corporations? How about returning to taxes for corporations and individuals to the Eisenhower era?

    The money spent in good paying middle class jobs will create a demand for more goods and services and increase the number of private sector jobs. It's been done before. To successful results.
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman909 View Post
    The current customary function when a president is re-elected, is for his/her cabinet to submit their resignations. The president then makes whatever decision to keep or not keep someone in their respective office. The same practice would work here.

    First, change the requirements for food stamps based on economic status ONLY If you make less than the current poverty level, you qualify, with special rules for owning any valuable property, have a reasonable saving account or financial worth. In other words, if you can afford to buy your own food, then you do NOT qualify for food stamps. Then, anyone who is currently receiving this benefit, must re-apply for it or it expires within 3 months.

    There is nothing more disgusting than watching a food stamp user, get into their Lexus and drive away while chatting on their $500 iPhone.

    Give the benefit to those who really need it, and stop the fraud and waste.
    What do you consider an income below poverty?

    How many times have you seen a Lexus outside a food stamp office? Why would they verify for you that the person getting foodstamps own the Lexus? Are you a police of sort?
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    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    What do you consider an income below poverty?

    How many times have you seen a Lexus outside a food stamp office? Why would they verify for you that the person getting foodstamps own the Lexus? Are you a police of sort?
    I must confess I have not seen a Lexus outside a food stamp office. Honestly I have not ever seen a food stamp office. But I have seen a food stamp user, get into a lexus and drive away talking on her iphone. I am not the police, I merely described what I have seen. Perhaps she rented it?
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman909 View Post
    I must confess I have not seen a Lexus outside a food stamp office. Honestly I have not ever seen a food stamp office. But I have seen a food stamp user, get into a lexus and drive away talking on her iphone. I am not the police, I merely described what I have seen. Perhaps she rented it?
    Well, if you don't have a poor family member, count yourself lucky. Many of us do, and we freely loan our cars to them.

    I would imagine the "iPhone" you saw was probably a low version that is provided at discount prices to the poor. After all, isn't communicating, calling an ambulance, talking to family something we should all enjoy?

    You can turn the person in, if you think there's fraud involved. Why the right seems to think it's okay to observe what they see as a crime without the responsibility of reporting it is beyond me. I have turned in SSDI people whom I have seen pick up extra construction jobs. I thought his disability was for back problems. I found out, his disability was for vision, which was so poor, he worked alone tossing the bricks and cement blocks. Had to be shown the general direction.

    BTW, Wal-Mart is the BIGGEST corporate contributor to people on subsidies. Their wages are so poor, Wal-Mart ENCOURAGES its employees to apply for foodstamps and Medicaid. That way, the Walton family has another $100 billion in profits they can enjoy.
    Alex Carey:

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    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    How about improving our infrastructure?
    That might have been a good idea when the country wasn't trillion of dollars in debt, and that debt growing every day. What's happening to all that money? What happened to all those 'shovel ready' jobs that were supposed to be there? Even Obama had to laugh at that joke.

    You're talking as though you want good and responsible government that will balance budgets, maintain the infrastructure, and so on, and then elect a wastrel with no experience whatsoever. What can Americans actually expect from someone like Obama? If you don't vote in serious people you won't have serious government. Instead you wanted celebrity government and now complain about the lack of infrastructure.

    It's hard to have any sympathy.

    Construction jobs. How about increasing the park rangers and visitors bureaus to national parks? how about increasing the number of Social Security offices and staff to meet the increasing needs of the baby boomers applying? How about creating federal mental health facilities in each state and filling them full of staff?
    Again, the government is $17,000,000,000,000 in debt and that number is growing every day. What are you going to pay all these people with? When a company is broke is their response to hire more people? That only happened in Obamaworld. It's time to get real.

    Where to get the money? Borrow it? Print it?
    How about closing the 750 overseas bases in 36 countries used to protect American multinational companies from the striking workers?
    They are not used for that purpose but at least you have an idea, albeit a tad unrealistic.

    How about stopping the building of obsolete weapons?
    Great

    How about demanding that the weapons built overseas by foreigners for our MIC be done here?
    Perhaps but they may then be more expensive and further debts created.

    How about stopping welfare subsidies to corporations?
    You call them 'welfare subsidies' but, as you know, corporations are leaving, subsidies or no. At one time America was a great place to invest but today, not so much. Instead you should be asking yourself how to attract more business.

    How about returning to taxes for corporations and individuals to the Eisenhower era?
    How about spending what they did during the Eisenhower years and diminishing the size of government as well, and returning to the habits of personal responsibilities of the Eisenhower years. The Americans of today are a shadow of what they were during those times so your suggestion is quite impossible. The American character has beome too diminished.

    The money spent in good paying middle class jobs will create a demand for more goods and services and increase the number of private sector jobs. It's been done before. To successful results.
    The conditions in America today are unique to America today. The family is dying out and personal responsibility along with it. People like Barrack Obama claim "Wall Street", "Rich Bankers" or "Corporations" are the villains when it is actually the American people themselves who are to blame. And that weakness is further demonstrated when they whine and complain, like juveniles, that it is all somebody else's fault.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    So Conservatives are against minimum wages that allow people to take care of themselves and against programs that alleviate the pain of low wages. It's amazing that "Go **** youself" Conservatism doesn't gain more traction with the voting public.
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Well, if you don't have a poor family member, count yourself lucky. Many of us do, and we freely loan our cars to them.

    I would imagine the "iPhone" you saw was probably a low version that is provided at discount prices to the poor. After all, isn't communicating, calling an ambulance, talking to family something we should all enjoy?

    You can turn the person in, if you think there's fraud involved. Why the right seems to think it's okay to observe what they see as a crime without the responsibility of reporting it is beyond me. I have turned in SSDI people whom I have seen pick up extra construction jobs. I thought his disability was for back problems. I found out, his disability was for vision, which was so poor, he worked alone tossing the bricks and cement blocks. Had to be shown the general direction.

    BTW, Wal-Mart is the BIGGEST corporate contributor to people on subsidies. Their wages are so poor, Wal-Mart ENCOURAGES its employees to apply for foodstamps and Medicaid. That way, the Walton family has another $100 billion in profits they can enjoy.
    Once again you spew BS, toss out impressive sounding numbers based on nothing at all and hope that nobody would dare question them. Walmart annual profits are less than $20 billion, as is the CEO total compensation. In fact, if you paid the Walmart CEO nothing and took that (about $18 million) total annual compensation and divided it equally among all (2 million) Walmart employees that would be a whopping $9/year in extra pay for each of them.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Well, if you don't have a poor family member, count yourself lucky. Many of us do, and we freely loan our cars to them.

    I would imagine the "iPhone" you saw was probably a low version that is provided at discount prices to the poor. After all, isn't communicating, calling an ambulance, talking to family something we should all enjoy?

    You can turn the person in, if you think there's fraud involved. Why the right seems to think it's okay to observe what they see as a crime without the responsibility of reporting it is beyond me. I have turned in SSDI people whom I have seen pick up extra construction jobs. I thought his disability was for back problems. I found out, his disability was for vision, which was so poor, he worked alone tossing the bricks and cement blocks. Had to be shown the general direction.

    BTW, Wal-Mart is the BIGGEST corporate contributor to people on subsidies. Their wages are so poor, Wal-Mart ENCOURAGES its employees to apply for foodstamps and Medicaid. That way, the Walton family has another $100 billion in profits they can enjoy.
    The minimum wage workers at Walmart are so much more oppressed than the minimum wage workers at Target, Kmart, Sears, McDonalds, Lowe's, Home Depot, your local cafe, the company that mows people's lawns, etc.

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