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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Sure the wars he didn't fund an include in the debt and
    Medicare subsidies to pharmaceutical companies and bailouts.
    If you have to LIE, to support your ideology, your'e still left with a suck ideology.

    Honestly, the Liberals in this Country are suffering under some mass delusion.

    According to the " National Priorities Project " the two DEMOCRAT approved wars cost over 11 years 1.4 trillion dollars.

    Obama knocks that out in one year of deficit spending.

    Hell he got close in the 3 rd quarter of last year when he spent 900 billion.

    So enough with the Bull****. Its not my problem you have issues with honesty, just lie to someone else.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertas-Mors View Post
    I think you phrased it a little imprecisely. Surely Bush didn't spend 13 trillion, but his deficits left us around that mark.
    You'd have to include Clinton's debt as well to get to that figure.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    If you have to LIE, to support your ideology, your'e still left with a suck ideology.

    Honestly, the Liberals in this Country are suffering under some mass delusion.

    According to the " National Priorities Project " the two DEMOCRAT approved wars cost over 11 years 1.4 trillion dollars.

    Obama knocks that out in one year of deficit spending.

    Hell he got close in the 3 rd quarter of last year when he spent 900 billion.

    So enough with the Bull****. Its not my problem you have issues with honesty, just lie to someone else.
    OMG!

    The Democrats want to blame the wars and deficits on Republicans!

    And the Republicans want to blame the Democrats!

    Don't they understand that they're both right?
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    If you have to LIE, to support your ideology, your'e still left with a suck ideology.

    Honestly, the Liberals in this Country are suffering under some mass delusion.

    According to the " National Priorities Project " the two DEMOCRAT approved wars cost over 11 years 1.4 trillion dollars.

    Obama knocks that out in one year of deficit spending.

    Hell he got close in the 3 rd quarter of last year when he spent 900 billion.

    So enough with the Bull****. Its not my problem you have issues with honesty, just lie to someone else.
    Obama can't spend. The Congress spends..and then threatens to shut down the government if it's budget isn't passed.

    Talk about being supportive of some sick ideology.
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Obama can't spend. The Congress spends..and
    then threatens to shut down the government if it's budget isn't passed.

    Talk about being supportive of some sick ideology.
    You said Bush spent 13 Trillion on wars, bailouts and medicade Part B.

    Show your data supporting that ridiculous assertion.

    And quit blaming this on Congress. A President is to SUPPOSE to be a leader and a continuing resolution is not a budget.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    OMG!


    The Democrats want to blame the wars and deficits on Republicans!

    And the Republicans want to blame the Democrats!

    Don't they understand that they're both right?
    Wasn't talking to you but if you want to try and quantify Muddy's claim that Bush spent 13 Trillion then go right ahead.

    The Cost of the two democrat supported wars is pretty easy to find.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt Racer View Post
    I couldn't agree more. I believe in order to receive assistance they should be required to do some type of community service. Pick up trash, Plant tree's, work at an apple orchard. Give them something to do beisides sit around and wait for a check. This would likely curb some of the criminal activities we have.
    It's ironic that folks on the right who support policies that push wages down (cheap foreign labor, right to work, no minimum wage) and then blame the left, who support labor advantages to keep wages higher, for increased eligibility for food stamps and other welfare programs.

    55% of food stamps recipients are children or seniors and 41% have jobs.

    Only 17% of food stamp recipients are men without jobs.

    Conservative policy can be summed in one sentence. Watch us crush the incomes of the American people and then call them lazy freeloaders when our policy works.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Wasn't talking to you but if you want to try and quantify Muddy's claim that Bush spent 13 Trillion then go right ahead.

    The Cost of the two democrat supported wars is pretty easy to find.
    yes, it is, at least as easy as finding the cost of the Republican supported wars.
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertas-Mors View Post
    Seems pretty obvious. If the choice is between a town that has union baggage and will be far more expensive to start up a business or 20 miles away another town that does not then the choice is easy.
    It's been my experience that what some see as obvious usually isn't. We become blind to possibilities when we start thinking that way. But regardless, it's good practice to avoid logical reasoning errors and do the work of looking at all factors.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    True enough, but there has to be a better solution to fewer jobs than more welfare.
    I don't disagree. But I think it would be structured in a short term to long term fashion. And I wouldn't be too quick to demonize those on welfare, as some have done.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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