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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertas-Mors View Post
    News flash: we're $16.7 trillion in debt. Some government jobs have to be slashed, it cannot continue on indefinitely like liberal, looney toon California.
    We've cut trillions in taxes the rich used to pay. Bush left us with $13 trillion in debt from two wars unfunded, and a pharmaceutical giveaway on Medicare unfunded and two bailouts in the trillions. We need to defense spending, we have more than enough weapons to destroy the world, stop overseas bases, stop protecting corporations overseas and stop subsides to the corporations, raising their taxes to the 1950 status to get out of this debt. We can't slash jobs and have our economy grow. Creating jobs also creates more taxes. Growing government jobs creates consumers which creates private sector jobs. Stopping the bleed of corporations taking jobs overseas by raising tarriffs on them brings jobs back home or allows the creation of jobs by stopping monopolies to dominant the price fixing.
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There are many reasons for less jobs, many if which can't be fixed by government. From out sourcing to mechanization to weakening of unions to cost of education, it is nt surprising that the need has grown.
    True enough, but there has to be a better solution to fewer jobs than more welfare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Sure it does. What creates poverty if not the lack of jobs?
    Tea party governors like Walker and Scott are getting rid of more and more teachers, firemen, police and state workers. This creates poverty, lack of income, and increase in social services. How is it you don't know that? What do you think the people who have their jobs slashed by republican in Congress do? Grow money on trees?
    So we should mirror the economic strategy of Greece.

    To build a massive public sector while imposing draconian economic hardships on the private sector workers and Companies.

    Yea, something tells me thats already been tried and has failed miserably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    So we should mirror the economic strategy of Greece.

    To build a massive public sector while imposing draconian economic hardships on the private sector workers and Companies.

    Yea, something tells me thats already been tried and has failed miserably.

    Show me the economic hardships of the private sector in the US.

    You really know nothing but talking points,do you? Sad. You need to start researching a bit more of what your government is doing on the local, state and federal level as well as reading real economist. FOX opinion makers are not economists
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    We've cut trillions
    in taxes the rich used to pay. Bush left us with $13 trillion in debt from two wars unfunded, and a pharmaceutical giveaway on Medicare unfunded and two bailouts in the trillions. We need to defense spending, we have more than enough weapons to destroy the world, stop overseas bases, stop protecting corporations overseas and stop subsides to the corporations, raising their taxes to the 1950 status to get out of this debt. We can't slash jobs and have our economy grow. Creating jobs also creates more taxes. Growing government jobs creates consumers which creates private sector jobs. Stopping the bleed of corporations taking jobs overseas by raising tarriffs on them brings jobs back home or allows the creation of jobs by stopping monopolies to dominant the price fixing.
    Bush spent 13 Trillion dollars ?

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    We've cut trillions in taxes the rich used to pay. Bush left us with $13 trillion in debt from two wars unfunded, and a pharmaceutical giveaway on Medicare unfunded and two bailouts in the trillions. We need to defense spending, we have more than enough weapons to destroy the world, stop overseas bases, stop protecting corporations overseas and stop subsides to the corporations, raising their taxes to the 1950 status to get out of this debt. We can't slash jobs and have our economy grow. Creating jobs also creates more taxes. Growing government jobs creates consumers which creates private sector jobs. Stopping the bleed of corporations taking jobs overseas by raising tarriffs on them brings jobs back home or allows the creation of jobs by stopping monopolies to dominant the price fixing.
    I am just curious. Do you jump randomly into threads regardless of the topic or conversation and blindlessly blame Bush?
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    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I am just curious. Do you jump randomly into threads regardless of the topic or conversation and blindlessly blame Bush?
    Show me other threads where I blame Bush?
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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Bush spent 13 Trillion dollars ?
    Sure the wars he didn't fund an include in the debt and Medicare subsidies to pharmaceutical companies and bailouts.
    Alex Carey:

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    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    We've cut trillions in taxes the rich used to pay. Bush left us with $13 trillion in debt from two wars unfunded, and a pharmaceutical giveaway on Medicare unfunded and two bailouts in the trillions.
    Two points: 1) cutting income taxes is always good for promoting job creation, that's why even liberal Obama agreed to extend Bush tax cuts for a few years in the recession.
    2) Bush was a disaster and you correctly identified some of his horrible policies, many of which are exacerbated by Obama.

    We need to defense spending, we have more than enough weapons to destroy the world, stop overseas bases, stop protecting corporations overseas and stop subsides to the corporations, raising their taxes to the 1950 status to get out of this debt.
    I agree with everything you said about military cuts, it's one for sure commonality that libertarian minded Republicans like myself share with a decent amount of liberals. Unfortunately, Obama has sent billions of dollars in warfare aid to countries like Egypt and Israel.

    We already have the highest corporate tax in the world (not all of them get deductions either). Switzerland recently slashed its corp taxes down to ~22% to attract more business.


    We can't slash jobs and have our economy grow. Creating jobs also creates more taxes. Growing government jobs creates consumers which creates private sector jobs. Stopping the bleed of corporations taking jobs overseas by raising tarriffs on them brings jobs back home or allows the creation of jobs by stopping monopolies to dominant the price fixing.
    That's not true. Pumping money into the public sector stunts productivity of the private sector because you take money from the latter and give to the former. What you can do for economic growth is slash taxes, bring government salaries and benefits in line with private sector equivalents, and put a hiring freeze on a number of federal jobs.

    The current model is 1 trillion dollar deficits to sustain near 8% unemployment. That will destroy this country, it's unsustainable.

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    Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Sure the wars he didn't fund an include in the debt and Medicare subsidies to pharmaceutical companies and bailouts.
    I think you phrased it a little imprecisely. Surely Bush didn't spend 13 trillion, but his deficits left us around that mark.

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