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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

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    It may be. But no one has conquered poverty yet to my knowledge. However, being poor here is not only better than other places in the world, but better than it used to be here.
    Oh, yes, much better. The sort of poverty described in the Grapes of Wrath, for example, would be hard to find in today's society.

    and it would be better still if the focus were to be more on jobs and less on handouts.
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    Oh, yes, much better. The sort of poverty described in the Grapes of Wrath, for example, would be hard to find in today's society.

    and it would be better still if the focus were to be more on jobs and less on handouts.
    There are many reasons for less jobs, many if which can't be fixed by government. From out sourcing to mechanization to weakening of unions to cost of education, it is nt surprising that the need has grown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There are many reasons for less jobs, many if which can't be fixed by government. From out sourcing to mechanization to weakening of unions to cost of education, it is nt surprising that the need has grown.
    Weakening of unions increases jobs. Just wanted to make that correction.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It may be. But no one has conquered poverty yet to my knowledge. However, being poor here is not only better than other places in the world, but better than it used to be here.
    That might be difficult to demonstrate, given that the government is $17 trillion in debt. Living on credit or just printing money is not a long term solution for poverty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertas-Mors View Post
    Weakening of unions increases jobs. Just wanted to make that correction.
    Lower paying jobs, if there s any increase at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That might be difficult to demonstrate, given that the government is $17 trillion in debt. Living on credit or just printing money is not a long term solution for poverty.
    Didn't say it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Lower paying jobs, if there s any increase at all.
    There is an increase in companies going to right to work states that border union states.

    I worked at a factory and made $16 per hour, no union, no problem. That was sufficient for the work I was doing.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertas-Mors View Post
    There is an increase in companies going to right to work states that border union states.

    I worked at a factory and made $16 per hour, no union, no problem. That was sufficient for the work I was doing.
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    Other factors surely can contribute to employment. I was stating that there is at least one study, not just the Labor statistics, that suggests the efficacy of RTW.

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    Re: Food-stamp use doubles

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertas-Mors View Post
    Other factors surely can contribute to employment. I was stating that there is at least one study, not just the Labor statistics, that suggests the efficacy of RTW.
    It may well be making the same causal relationship error Romney did, but I'd have to see the study to know.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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