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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Christie is a Conservative. He may not be ideologically "pure" in the eyes of some. Frankly, I don't get it. He said something nice about President Obama. I suppose he could have punched Obama in the face, but it would seem he's not an asshole.

    It seems they are looking in the wrong direction aren't they? I mean recently you have Dr. Carson and Rand Paul, blast Obama and now they are seen as the front runners in the election. I like Carson, and hate Paul, but if they become President. I can't say what will become of the country. I think at this point we don't need a partisan or a Republican Obama if you will. We all know how Obama turned out. He says things we like to hear and then doesn't follow through or shall i say flip flops? We need someone like Rubio or Christie that can bring people together and not talk about which belief is better than the other one.
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    Re: CPAC chair: Christie didn't 'deserve' an invite this year

    Hmmm, looking around it seems to be only non-republicans that have any sort of issue with Christie not being invited to CPAC. Pretty much par for the course.

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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You do realize that CPAC stands for Conservative Political Action Conference? It is not LPAC for Liberal Political Action Conference, or RPAC for Rino Political Action Conference.
    Exactly Christie is a RINO. No big loss there.
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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    I think Christie's shunning from the CPAC will serve him well in his future endeavors.

    Many people relate the CPAC to the recent neo-con brand of Republican (ie: wingnuts, teabaggers, Limbaughnauts, etc.,) which is pretty much looked down upon by the majority of Americans.

    His "non-endorsement" from this wing of whackos is a feather in his hat he could not have bought and paid for.

    The CPAC seems to have cut it's own nose off to spite it's face.

    The G.O.P. would be wise to distance themselves from this "brand" of conservatism.

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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I think Christie's shunning from the CPAC will serve him well in his future endeavors.

    Many people relate the CPAC to the recent neo-con brand of Republican (ie: wingnuts, teabaggers, Limbaughnauts, etc.,) which is pretty much looked down upon by the majority of Americans.

    His "non-endorsement" from this wing of whackos is a feather in his hat he could not have bought and paid for.

    The CPAC seems to have cut it's own nose off to spite it's face.

    The G.O.P. would be wise to distance themselves from this "brand" of conservatism.
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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I think Christie's shunning from the CPAC will serve him well in his future endeavors.

    Many people relate the CPAC to the recent neo-con brand of Republican (ie: wingnuts, teabaggers, Limbaughnauts, etc.,) which is pretty much looked down upon by the majority of Americans.

    His "non-endorsement" from this wing of whackos is a feather in his hat he could not have bought and paid for.

    The CPAC seems to have cut it's own nose off to spite it's face.

    The G.O.P. would be wise to distance themselves from this "brand" of conservatism.
    Nationally speaking, no, I don't believe so. Christie has only lost support from his party, he hasn't gained anything. Do you really think the liberals who are making a mountain out of this molehill to divide republicans are going to vote for him when he's running on a national stage against a democrat?

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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I think Christie's shunning from the CPAC will serve him well in his future endeavors.

    Many people relate the CPAC to the recent neo-con brand of Republican (ie: wingnuts, teabaggers, Limbaughnauts, etc.,) which is pretty much looked down upon by the majority of Americans.

    His "non-endorsement" from this wing of whackos is a feather in his hat he could not have bought and paid for.

    The CPAC seems to have cut it's own nose off to spite it's face.

    The G.O.P. would be wise to distance themselves from this "brand" of conservatism.
    Agreed, even I'm beginning to appreciate the candor and hard work of Christie. I don't to agree with everything he does or has done to see that he's trying to make his state run well for its citizens -- unlike the nihilistic tea partiers who are so mired in their own knownothing ideology that they cheer catastrophes and hardship.

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    Re: CPAC chair: Christie didn't 'deserve' an invite this year

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
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    The bit in bold particularly bothers me. Everyone needs to "live by the parameters of the movement"? Does that include individuals who are not conservative and who do not desire to live like a conservative lives? I thought individualism was a conservative trait (not that our conservatives would know authentic individualism if it punched them in the nose)? How far is Cardenas willing to go to force others to "live by the parameters of the movement"?

    At any rate, demanding ideological purity certainly is not convincing. I'm one of those rarities who do not believe that any ideology actually correlates to reality one-to-one, and that the mark of a successful ideology is how well it adapts itself to the conditions of material reality, what it can trade off and where it can hold firm. An insistence on purity makes me less convinced, not more.


    There wouldn't be a speaker in the place if they were worried about keeping the parameters of the movement (conservative movement) secure.

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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Agreed, even I'm beginning to appreciate the candor and hard work of Christie. I don't to agree with everything he does or has done to see that he's trying to make his state run well for its citizens -- unlike the nihilistic tea partiers who are so mired in their own knownothing ideology that they cheer catastrophes and hardship.
    So, come 2016, Christie vs Clinton - you'd vote for a republican?

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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Nationally speaking, no, I don't believe so. Christie has only lost support from his party, he hasn't gained anything. Do you really think the liberals who are making a mountain out of this molehill to divide republicans are going to vote for him when he's running on a national stage against a democrat?
    I think the partisan left will vote democrat even if they ran Pee-Wee Herman. On the other hand, I think the partisan right would vote Republican even if they ran Captain Kangaroo.

    I am of the opinion that the moderates, independants, and the undecided's determine the winners of elections because they tip the scales one way or another.

    Bill Christie is the only Republican on the scene right now that I can see winning an election for the G.O.P. as he can draw enough of the moderates/independants to tip the scale. But that is just my opinion. I have been wrong once or twice before. Well, maybe once. LOL!

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