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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Enzige wrote: "how well it adapts itself to the conditions of material reality"

    Exactly. You have got to deal with reality. Nothing less.

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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Once again, Christie should run for the Democratic nomination for President. Clearly he would win a landslide of Democratic primary voters for all the praises they lavish on him.

    And then turned around and attacked 100% of Republican in Congress. ALL Republicans as a collective.

    What Christie did to Romney, after being who agreed to actually formally introduce and nominate Romney, was as lowlife backstabbing sleezy as it gets. Christie cares about only one person on earth - himself - and his ethics are singularly to that goal.

    No one Republican can trust backstabbing opportunistic and knee-jerk reaction Christie. He's the ultimate loose cannon on the deck.

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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post

    What Christie did to Romney, after being who agreed to actually formally introduce and nominate Romney, was as lowlife backstabbing sleezy as it gets. Christie cares about only one person on earth - himself - and his ethics are singularly to that goal.
    Please. He did what any Governor has done. My Governor sucked up to the President, why can't he?
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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I am sure that to a lefty like you any righter than you is a conservative. But the fact is its CPAC,not LPAC or RPAC.
    Fun fact: I'd vote Tory in England, because the Conservative Party there appeals to me.

    I go in for conservatism that is decentralist and open to being pro-labor in a decentralist way. I oppose Christian Democracy, neo-conservatism, and anything tinged with right-wing collectivism.
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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    There are no Conservatives, just another wing of the Republican party. Like the Liberals are a wing of the Democratic party. The so called Conservative's don't have the intestinal fortitude to brake off and create their own party.
    I confess, I did it, I let the dogs out.

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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
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    The bit in bold particularly bothers me. Everyone needs to "live by the parameters of the movement"? Does that include individuals who are not conservative and who do not desire to live like a conservative lives? I thought individualism was a conservative trait (not that our conservatives would know authentic individualism if it punched them in the nose)? How far is Cardenas willing to go to force others to "live by the parameters of the movement"?

    At any rate, demanding ideological purity certainly is not convincing. I'm one of those rarities who do not believe that any ideology actually correlates to reality one-to-one, and that the mark of a successful ideology is how well it adapts itself to the conditions of material reality, what it can trade off and where it can hold firm. An insistence on purity makes me less convinced, not more.
    In my view, it wouldn't hurt a bit if the Republican Party actually got back to being representatives of conservatism in its true sense - small government, both fiscally and socially. If they did that, they would actually attract a large number of people who are tired of having the government grow, extending it's tentacles into all aspects of individual lives and wealth.

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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Fun fact: I'd vote Tory in England, because the Conservative Party there appeals to me.

    I go in for conservatism that is decentralist and open to being pro-labor in a decentralist way. I oppose Christian Democracy, neo-conservatism, and anything tinged with right-wing collectivism.
    I am pretty sure conservationism in the UK is not the same thing as conservationism in the US. At least that's what people in the UK told me.
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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Seeing how he is one of the biggest RINOs he should have never been invited.
    I hate it when people toss around terms like "RINO." What's going on with the TP and the GOP would be akin to a bunch of socialists coming in and defining what a "real Democrat" was.

    Americans are, by and large, center-right. When the Republican party espoused center-right ideas, they did well (see how that works?). Now you want to abandon the center? Given the choice between center-left (despite the desperate attempts to paint Obama as a Communist) and the far right, centrists are choosing center-left. They'd like to choose center-right, but it seems that the Republican party isn't interested in giving that to them anymore. Which seems odd considering how they're supposedly the "free market" party. In a free market economy, smart businessmen identify what people want and seek to sell it to them. You're trying to tell people that they really want what you're selling, and they ain't buying it!


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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    In my view, it wouldn't hurt a bit if the Republican Party actually got back to being representatives of conservatism in its true sense - small government, both fiscally and socially. If they did that, they would actually attract a large number of people who are tired of having the government grow, extending it's tentacles into all aspects of individual lives and wealth.
    There's no reason a "social liberal" couldn't be conservative. When we look at the broad history of the modern West, and of America in particular, we see a series of liberations - of small landholders in the Jacksonian era to the ballot; of slaves in the age of Lincoln; of women during the progressive era; of black voters during the Civil Rights Movement. There's no reason a conservative couldn't take in this past history as a guideline for future activity. Progress is, or can be, at any rate, a traditional value.
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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I am pretty sure conservationism in the UK is not the same thing as conservationism in the US. At least that's what people in the UK told me.
    To the extent that the Conservative Party is not full of kneejerk reactionaries or right-wing class agitators, this is correct.
    I dip my forefinger in the watery blood of your impotent mad-redeemer (your Divine Democrat — your Hebrew Madman) and write over his thorn-torn brow, “The true prince of Evil — the king of the Slaves!”
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