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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    I don't think it would be worth it just to win, and I think that's why politicians in general are held in such low esteem.

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Then would it ever be worth it to lose your integrity just to win? Maybe there are exceptions, but the greats in history are remembered because they did not sacrifice their integrity, even if it meant death. Just my opinion...

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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by JC Callender View Post
    I don't think it would be worth it just to win, and I think that's why politicians in general are held in such low esteem.
    There are some who believe it's okay to do the wrong thing, if it's for the right reasons. As an example, Schindler and many others disobeyed the Nazi regime and saved many Jews. Few would say they did the wrong thing. Is that integrity?

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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    That's a good question that I'll have to think about some more. Imo, Schindler did compromise his integrity in order to do good, meaning he lied and he also went against his formerly unscrupulous values. I think in his case he saw the light and became a different, better person. I find it hard to try and tell you that he should've never lied, as he wouldn't have been able to help those Jews.

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    There are some who believe it's okay to do the wrong thing, if it's for the right reasons. As an example, Schindler and many others disobeyed the Nazi regime and saved many Jews. Few would say they did the wrong thing. Is that integrity?

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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by JC Callender View Post
    I think I understand your point but it begs the question: What's more important, integrity or winning? And when is the best opportunity to sacrifice ones integrity in order to win?

    JCC, I think those are questions that can't be answered in the abstract. Best I can suggest is to study Benjamin Disraeli, my personal all time favorite conservative politician.
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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    I thought about it and I don't think Schindler was a person of integrity to begin with as immoral people usually don't make a point to be consistently honest, they only do it when they have to for their own gain. And when I said "values" I meant moral values, which Schindler didn't seem to have initially as well. It has been a while since I've seen the movie though, so I may be wrong.

    I think it's different when a politician compromises his/her integrity (if they had any) to deceive voters in an attempt to win. Where Schindler turned from bad to good, and may have started to live a life of integrity, these politicians are going the other way.



    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    There are some who believe it's okay to do the wrong thing, if it's for the right reasons. As an example, Schindler and many others disobeyed the Nazi regime and saved many Jews. Few would say they did the wrong thing. Is that integrity?

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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You do realize that CPAC stands for Conservative Political Action Conference? It is not LPAC for Liberal Political Action Conference, or RPAC for Rino Political Action Conference.
    So why was Romney invited? He is far from conserative although he tried to pretend to be, which everyone saw right through.

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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    So why was Romney invited? He is far from conserative although he tried to pretend to be, which everyone saw right through.


    You bought it, at least when it was convenient.

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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post


    You bought it, at least when it was convenient.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...post1061274498
    Bought what? His severely conserative speech? I think not.

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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    Bought what? His severely conserative speech? I think not.
    Then why were you trying to convince Dittohead Not! that Romney was a conservative?
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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Then why were you trying to convince Dittohead Not! that Romney was a conservative?
    I'm not. My point is why was Romney invited to CPAC because he is not a conservative. He only pretended when he was running. My recollection is the conserative part of the republican party did not want Romney so why was he invited? That is my question.
    Any answers?

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