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    Re: CPAC chair: Christie didn't 'deserve' an invite this year

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    CPAC is a private entity. It can invite or refrain from inviting whomever it chooses.

    Having said that, CPAC is not the Republican Party. CPAC has a voice, but Governor Christie is free to build a coalition that he believes would secure him the nomination if he chooses to run for President.

    My guess is that CPAC's lack of invitation and Cardenas's subsequent explanation gives Governor Christie another fresh opportunity to build upon his emerging message of a stark contrast between doers (like him) who achieve results in governance/can appeal to a broad slice of the electorate and ideologues/purists who offer doctrinaire messages but show few results and possess only narrow political appeal. He will then translate that contrast into public policy outcomes. He will point to his fiscal results in NJ and then the lack of credible fiscal consolidation program in Washington. Of course, there is some risk in such a strategy, too, as following the nominating process, he would need to gain a decent share of support from those who backed alternative candidates. However, if he can build a strong case that he would represent the kind of problem-solver Washington has lacked in recent years, he could have a potent message.

    Exogenous factors will also be important in determining the outcome. His rival will be a key factor. The state of the economy and the nation's fiscal situation will be important. International developments could also have an impact. For now, it remains to be seen whether he will, in fact, seek the Presidency. His near-term focus will be on the NJ race and an effort to win by a large landslide.
    And Christie still has plenty of time to work toward those measurable goals.

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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Sorry, but that doesn't fly. CPAC invited Romney last year. What did CPAC stand for again you say?
    Yes it was stupid of them to exclude one RINO but not another. Romney is no conservative.
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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Yes it was stupid of them to exclude one RINO but not another. Romney is no conservative.
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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The Buckley Rule

    The wisest choice would be the one who would win. No sense running Mona Lisa in a beauty contest. I’d be for the most right, viable candidate who could win.
    – William F. Buckley, Jr.

    That is the die hard party-tard rule.In otherwords screw our values we want to win. Propping up a RINO in 08 didn't work, what made them think that running ginormous RINO was a smart idea?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    I'd rather you kept your values and never won. Christie dodged a bullet by not being asked. He remains electable by not being there.
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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The Buckley Rule

    The wisest choice would be the one who would win. No sense running Mona Lisa in a beauty contest. I’d be for the most right, viable candidate who could win.
    – William F. Buckley, Jr.
    Excellent quote choice!

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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    In my view, it wouldn't hurt a bit if the Republican Party actually got back to being representatives of conservatism in its true sense - small government, both fiscally and socially. If they did that, they would actually attract a large number of people who are tired of having the government grow, extending it's tentacles into all aspects of individual lives and wealth.
    Except the Republicans never really did stand for small government, they stood for big business and isolationism. raw unbridled capitalism and some 'invisible hand' nonsense. There has never been 'true' conservatism any more than there has been 'true' liberalism. Some use 'true' whatever as a fig leaf for less pure motives.

    However, you can't really go back, unring a bell, put the kid back in the mother.

    The days of robber barons are over, however that doesn't mean corporations are not willing to invent a new version of Shell Oil.

    The GOP would do well to find a more centralist path, for all arch Conservatives holler RINO at anyone not 'ideologically pure' the bottomline is the extreme wings of both parties have no place else to go. Neither can exist as a third party and to split away only insures the other party can grab the brass ring alot easier.

    Willard was invited to CPAC, not for his lifelong ideology which is as RINO as they come, but to be the poster boy for how the 'takers' 'stole' the election.

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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    That is the die hard party-tard rule.In otherwords screw our values we want to win. Propping up a RINO in 08 didn't work, what made them think that running ginormous RINO was a smart idea?
    Hello, Jamesrage.

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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    That is the die hard party-tard rule.In otherwords screw our values we want to win. Propping up a RINO in 08 didn't work, what made them think that running ginormous RINO was a smart idea?
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    Re: CPAC head: Christie "doesn't deserve" to be a Republican

    Hello Jack....any idea who Buckley's influence was?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Without William F. Buckley, Jr. there would have been no conservative resurgence in the late 20th century.

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