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    Cardinals choose new Pope

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/14/wo...pope.html?_r=0

    VATICAN CITY — With a puff of white smoke from the chimney of the Sistine Chapel and to the cheers of thousands of rain-soaked faithful, a gathering of Catholic cardinals picked a new pope from among their midst on Wednesday — choosing the cardinal from Argentina, the first South American to ever lead the church.
    The new pope, Jorge Mario Bergoglio (pronounced Ber-GOAL-io), will be called Francis, the 266th pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church. He is also the first non-European leader of the church in more than 1,200 years.

    In choosing Francis, 76, who had been the archbishop of Buenos Aires, the cardinals sent a powerful message that the future of the church lies in the global south, home to the bulk of the world’s Catholics.

    “I would like to thank you for your embrace,” said the new pope, dressed in white, from the white balcony on St. Peter’s Basilica as thousands cheered joyously below. “My brother cardinals have chosen one who is from far away, but here I am.”

    Speaking in Italian as he blessed the faithful, Francis asked the audience to “pray for me, and we’ll see each other soon.”

    “Good night, and have a good rest,” he concluded, in a grandfatherly, almost casual tone.

    “Habemus papam!” members of the crowd shouted in Latin, waving umbrellas and flags. “We have a pope!” Others cried, “Viva il Papa!”

    “It was like waiting for the birth of a baby, only better,” said a Roman man. A child sitting atop his father’s shoulders waved a crucifix.

    Francis is known as a humble man who spoke out for the poor and led an austere life in Buenos Aires. He was born to Italian immigrant parents and was raised in the Argentine capital.
    Personal Opinion: The first non-European Pope ever... This is a sign of trouble.
    I didn't think they would elect a new Pope so soon... I mean, it hasn't even been a month. The conclave sure ended fast... too fast. It seems to me that the haste of which this decision was made is reflected in the candidate they picked. Not to mention that the man is 76. They could have picked a somewhat younger one...

    Anyway, for better or worse, this is it. The new Pope is from Argentina and he is taking on the name that suggest that his main concerns will be with poverty, hunger and helping the needy.

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    Re: Cardinals choose new Pope

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
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    Personal Opinion: The first non-European Pope ever... This is a sign of trouble.
    I didn't think they would elect a new Pope so soon... I mean, it hasn't even been a month. The conclave sure ended fast... too fast. It seems to me that the haste of which this decision was made is reflected in the candidate they picked. Not to mention that the man is 76. They could have picked a somewhat younger one...

    Anyway, for better or worse, this is it. The new Pope is from Argentina and he is taking on the name that suggest that his main concerns will be with poverty, hunger and helping the needy.
    I don't see it as trouble, I think it would eventually happen especially given the fact that South America is heavily Catholic.

    I think the conclave may have made a decision sooner than anticipated due to them having about a month in advance to discuss things. They knew Pope Benedict was going to resign, he didn't leave being the pope through death as most do
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    I'm so glad. Tired of all the television coverage. As interesting as watching paint dry.

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    Re: Cardinals choose new Pope

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I don't see it as trouble, I think it would eventually happen especially given the fact that South America is heavily Catholic.

    I think the conclave may have made a decision sooner than anticipated due to them having about a month in advance to discuss things. They knew Pope Benedict was going to resign, he didn't leave being the pope through death as most do
    The vatican shouldn't cater to its fan base. The population has no vote in this regard.

    They are supposed to pick the best for the job, the ones who will be the most able, according to their resume, to guide Catholics through the stormy seas that lie ahead.
    And the best ones, with the widest support and the most favorable CVs were from Italy. Scolora and Rivesi I think were their names.

    I don't know what the instructions the Pope left after he retired... if he left any at all, but this seems too fast... too rushed. Meh, maybe it will be fine.

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    Did we really need another papal thread?
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    Re: Cardinals choose new Pope

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
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    Personal Opinion: The first non-European Pope ever... This is a sign of trouble.
    I didn't think they would elect a new Pope so soon... I mean, it hasn't even been a month. The conclave sure ended fast... too fast. It seems to me that the haste of which this decision was made is reflected in the candidate they picked. Not to mention that the man is 76. They could have picked a somewhat younger one...

    Anyway, for better or worse, this is it. The new Pope is from Argentina and he is taking on the name that suggest that his main concerns will be with poverty, hunger and helping the needy.
    I wonder why they selected someone so old. ? I don't know what the history is in other papal selections, but choosing someone 76 years old seems strange. Maybe it's their version of term limits.

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    Re: Cardinals choose new Pope

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Did we really need another papal thread?
    Have you asked that question with regard to any of the seemingly endless atheist/homosexual threads attacking Christianity?

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    Re: Cardinals choose new Pope

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Have you asked that question with regard to any of the seemingly endless atheist/homosexual threads attacking Christianity?
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    Re: Cardinals choose new Pope

    l will be serious in this thread .l used to like pope john paul whose face was innocent enough to make me believe that he was a saint .
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    Re: Cardinals choose new Pope

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    The vatican shouldn't cater to its fan base. The population has no vote in this regard.

    They are supposed to pick the best for the job, the ones who will be the most able, according to their resume, to guide Catholics through the stormy seas that lie ahead.
    They will do none of that. The Catholic church is just like the US military. It picks whoever will best tow the status quo and make no meaningful changes. The new pope is chosen solely because he's useless to everyone except his friends.

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