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    Re: U.S. to let spy agencies scour Americans' finances

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    Honestly, I don't have much of a problem with this.
    Zurich has no problem with it, either.

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    Re: U.S. to let spy agencies scour Americans' finances

    I'm not old enough to bank, but I don't want the government to know my business

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    Re: U.S. to let spy agencies scour Americans' finances

    It's looking more and more like 1930's Germany around here.

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    Re: U.S. to let spy agencies scour Americans' finances

    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet Elvis View Post
    It's looking more and more like 1930's Germany around here.
    Suspicious banking activity has been reported to the government for while now. What specifically are you concerned about? I'm against government snooping, etc. But I really don't think that is that case here, and I don't see how any of this could harm you or affect your privacy. You probably give the government much more information about your finances when you file taxes than what they get from these reports.

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    Re: U.S. to let spy agencies scour Americans' finances

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    Suspicious banking activity has been reported to the government for while now. What specifically are you concerned about? I'm against government snooping, etc. But I really don't think that is that case here, and I don't see how any of this could harm you or affect your privacy. You probably give the government much more information about your finances when you file taxes than what they get from these reports.
    From my occupation, I know exactly what you mean about "suspicious banking activity being reported to the government." But that's private businesses doing the reporting, and only according to very very strict guidelines.

    Somehow, when the government does the investigating, I seriously doubt there will be those "strict guidelines."

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    Re: U.S. to let spy agencies scour Americans' finances

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    U.S. to let spy agencies examine Americans' finances - chicagotribune.com



    There was an outcry over wiretapping, then it went away... there has been no outcry of things worse than wiretapping ... guessing nobody will care about this either (at least nobody on one side).
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    Re: U.S. to let spy agencies scour Americans' finances

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    U.S. to let spy agencies examine Americans' finances - chicagotribune.com



    There was an outcry over wiretapping, then it went away... there has been no outcry of things worse than wiretapping ... guessing nobody will care about this either (at least nobody on one side).
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    Not like it was not happening already... now it is just out in the open.
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    Re: U.S. to let spy agencies scour Americans' finances

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    Suspicious banking activity has been reported to the government for while now. What specifically are you concerned about? I'm against government snooping, etc. But I really don't think that is that case here, and I don't see how any of this could harm you or affect your privacy. You probably give the government much more information about your finances when you file taxes than what they get from these reports.
    Suspicious fiancial activity can be investigated by authorities, just like anything else they might be suspicious of in your home, in your car or in your pocket.

    And the same rules, from the Fourth Amendment, apply:

    "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

    To snoop on everybody is an invasion of privacy. Firstly, they are doing this for everything else anyway, including the very messages we post on this board, which altogether is basically everything. This is just one part of it here. But even with these financial records they can track you, knowing everywhere you've ever withdrawn money, used a card to buy whatever, and exactly when you used it.

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    Re: U.S. to let spy agencies scour Americans' finances

    I'm opposed to spying on American citizens who've not committed any crimes without a warrant.

    I believe that in order for anyone to have access to any American's financial, internet, cell phone, business or personal data they should have to get authorization from a judge else the act should be considered unconstitutional. The state should not be mining, storing, selling or sharing the data of their citizens for any purpose... on matter of liberty I care not for appeals to safety.
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    Re: U.S. to let spy agencies scour Americans' finances

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    U.S. to let spy agencies examine Americans' finances - chicagotribune.com



    There was an outcry over wiretapping, then it went away... there has been no outcry of things worse than wiretapping ... guessing nobody will care about this either (at least nobody on one side).
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    The government can spy on my finances all it wants to. They will find out that I am broke, and then they will take pity on me and make me an honorary banker, so I don't have to pay taxes any more, and get a big fat check from the government every year to boot. LOL.
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