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    Worker who taped Romney's 47% comment comes forward.

    Quote Originally Posted by WWGWD View Post
    This is the narrative that worries me. Mr. Romney spoke of a very specific percentage number. It's not that he believed a large number of people were committed to the President. He said, specifically, 47% of people. What make him questionable is where that number came from and what a based his choice to use that number. Did a speech writter put it in, and he didn't fact check it? Did he read a report that provided that number? Was it an estimated number based on his cumulative experience? You don't miss speak about an exact number, any logical human being knows that people don't do that. What makes it extrodinarily important, is because of the extrodinarily important office he is running for. To simply be able to blow off that statment as a trivial flub, is pretty facetious, at best.

    From what I have been able to find, the only statistics that even come close to a 47%, is to include any and all people who receive money from the government, based on a very broad definition. That really does inlcude veterans, who deserve every penny that they receive, and absolutely do not overwhelmingly support the President. So this assersion that Mr. Romey was correct in his statement, but failed with execution, seem obviously inaccurate.

    It is however a matter of perspective and perception. This is just mine.
    I'm reasonably certain thy pulled the 47% figure from those in the government dole. I don't know that it is an exact number, however I think the election spoke pretty clearly. There really were only a small percentage of voters that could be swayed.

    Regardless...it was poorly stated. They really need to send candidates to candidate school.

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    Re: Worker who taped Romney's 47% comment comes forward.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    What you fail to do is realize you can't brush the whole military with the same brush.
    Another with reading comprehension problems... I never said anything about the military, I was talking about those that do not like the military.
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    Re: Worker who taped Romney's 47% comment comes forward.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Do you really have that bad of an issue with comprehension? The left is in general not supporters of the military... this is a fact... that has nothing to do with those that served.. Get a grip. But I see you repeated that other guys attempt at the left wing tactic of trying to make it personal... Thanks for proving the point on that one.
    If it is fact then were is the proof?

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    Re: Worker who taped Romney's 47% comment comes forward.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I'm reasonably certain thy pulled the 47% figure from those in the government dole. I don't know that it is an exact number, however I think the election spoke pretty clearly. There really were only a small percentage of voters that could be swayed.

    Regardless...it was poorly stated. They really need to send candidates to candidate school.

    The issue was not saying 47% would not vote for him. The issue was saying that 47% are all on the government assistance. Which is not true as it does include the elderly on SS, the retired military members on pensions, those on disability etc. I expect a large number of the 47% (not a majority) to generally vote republican.

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    Re: Worker who taped Romney's 47% comment comes forward.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Yeah, there you go, ignore reality and continue with that playbook. Maybe someone will fall for it.
    And what reality am I ignoring? There ARE military members and elderly that are part of the 47% that you don't address.

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    Re: Worker who taped Romney's 47% comment comes forward.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I'm reasonably certain thy pulled the 47% figure from those in the government dole. I don't know that it is an exact number, however I think the election spoke pretty clearly. There really were only a small percentage of voters that could be swayed.

    Regardless...it was poorly stated. They really need to send candidates to candidate school.
    It seems like, if someone is going to throw out a number, that specific, their must be a reason. What I can't understand, is why Mr. Romney never seemed to have to explain it. If he had, more people would have to consider, whether they think service members, seniors, children, and the working poor can never be convinced to "they take personal responsibility and care for their lives". From what of I have found, that's who makes up about 37% of the people who don't pay income taxes for various reasons. I would like to know, but probably never will, know why that very specific number came out of his mouth. At very best, if he truly wants to claim he mispoke, then the only way a number like that comes out is he made it up on the spot. Not a person I'm going to cast a vote for.
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    Re: Worker who taped Romney's 47% comment comes forward.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    If it is fact then were is the proof?
    Find any instance when people bad mouthed the military, spit on them, called them names, etc... then tell us if they were left or right on the spectrum.
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    Re: Worker who taped Romney's 47% comment comes forward.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Find any instance when people bad mouthed the military, spit on them, called them names, etc... then tell us if they were left or right on the spectrum.
    That is not specific. Give me a actual event.

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    Re: Worker who taped Romney's 47% comment comes forward.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Find any instance when people bad mouthed the military, spit on them, called them names, etc... then tell us if they were left or right on the spectrum.
    Oh, I can definitely give you this one. 2005, Army Spc. Carrie L. French was killed in combat, and the Westboro Baptist Church held a protest at her funeral. They were waiving signs that said things like "Thank God for IED's" and "Thank God for 9/11". I definitely wouldn't bet them on the left side of the scale, they do think that President Obama is the antichrist, so I guess they would fall to the right.
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    Re: Worker who taped Romney's 47% comment comes forward.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    That is not specific. Give me a actual event.
    I'm not here to give you a history lesson...
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