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    Re: How a U.S. Citizen Came to Be in America’s Cross Hairs

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Perhaps not, but if we remember Ruby Ridge and Waco it seems quite likely that, under the right hands, it will.

    Mark Steyn: Drones too convenient to stay overseas | drones, america, drone - Opinion - The Orange County Register
    Those were domestic, civic hostage-type events where no one was insighting insurrection from within towards the outside world. Quite different situations than someone like Bin Ladin or Al-Awlaki convincing those around them to take up arms against US/coalition forces or innocent civilians for their rebelious cause. Of course, this same argument could be used in defense of folks like Timothy McVeigh or some militia faction. I think people need to remember this when defending their argument on the possibility of our government using drones to attack Americans on U.S. soil: We're never at war with ourselves. We'll continue to treat domestic terrorism along the same lines as we do hostage situations and use SWAT-like techniques to disrupt the solo terrorist threat regardless of whether the threat originated from without or within. That is another reason why I thought Rand Paul's filibuster was so off-base. Although a good discussion to have, I thought his focus was towards the wrong person and he really didn't consider the scope of his argument, i.e., what's local law enforcement's role in all this.

    Answer: Far more than people would like to let on. Again, "we're never at war with ourselves".
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    Re: How a U.S. Citizen Came to Be in America’s Cross Hairs

    To illustrate the point I was trying to make in my last post (above), see this article from NBCNews.com, "The drones are coming ... but our laws aren't ready?" by Nidhi Subbaraman. What the article makes clear is despite their military applications, drones piloted by civilian entities, i.e., law enforcement or other private organizations, none (currently) use weapons against civilian populations.

    Again, Rand Paul was correct in broaching the subject and getting the Obama Administration (Justice) to state clearly their domestic position on the use of "weaponized" drones against U.S. citizens. However, when you peal back the layers on that rhetorical onion, what you come away with is a few people squawking about the possibility of unleashing drones but with no evidence to back up their claims. So, yes, unmanned drones are being used in some areas across America in strict, limited form but not in lethal ways against domestic civilian populations nor individuals. And unless this country goes on a domestic war footing, i.e., we get invaded and have the enemy in our sights, I seriously doubt what Rand Paul dared to warn us against will ever come to past ... atleast not in my lifetime.

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