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AP PHOTOS: Mob in Pakistan torches Christian homes

I eagerly await your personal press conference condemning the holocaust.
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No need, my ancestors went over there and kicked the **** out of the Nazis. When the Muslims stop condemning us for trying to do the same thing with the nutty **** Muslims that act like 8th century idiots, then I will stop condemning them.
 
It was all about oil, huh?

No, it was about arrogance. Afghanistan doesn't even have oil. Your ignorance on the subject is insanely obvious. I've actually been to the **** hole. There is absolutely no ****ing reason for us to be there.

No need, my ancestors went over there and kicked the **** out of the Nazis. When the Muslims stop condemning us for trying to do the same thing with the nutty **** Muslims that act like 8th century idiots, then I will stop condemning them.

I guess the poor deranged fools should just shut up about us daily bombing innocent civilians in an attempt to target the radicals. Stupid desert people.
 
If you think the war in afghanistan has anything to do with our actual national interests

I addressed this in the very text you quoted. see here : [/quote] , I truly pity you in your complete ignorance.
Feel free questioning the if the later actually fulfills those goals, but to compare it to religious extremism just highlights extreme ignorence


I truly pity you in your complete ignorance.

reading comprehension. How does it work, willis?
 
ALL Islamic dominated countries are repressive. All of them. Of course if you want to name one that isn't I'd like to hear back from you.

Turkey (which is according to wikipedia, 99% Muslim) is politically repressive to you?

They have free elections and full voting rights for all adults.

That is a politically repressive society to you?

Okaaaaay.
 
And muslims condemn the acts of muslim radicals all the time, but for some reason that just doesn't count for you.

Actually there are rather high levels of support for both fundamentalism and extremism in the islamic world. Surely extremism is only represented by a minority, but that minority is significant. And the fundamentalism may be embraced by a majority.

But with that said, it's idiotic to vilify all Muslims, even if a majority engaged in such behavior
 
No, it was about arrogance. Afghanistan doesn't even have oil. Your ignorance on the subject is insanely obvious. I've actually been to the **** hole. There is absolutely no ****ing reason for us to be there.

Oh it was all about 'arrogance'? Others said it was all about a pipeline. But you've been there, you'd know.
I guess the poor deranged fools should just shut up about us daily bombing innocent civilians in an attempt to target the radicals. Stupid desert people.

Well said!
 
You would fight till you're dying breath to disassociate yourself with radical christians.

Exactly.....which is why I have a difficult time trying to figure out why so-called "moderate" Muslims won't do the same when it comes to their "radical element"......could it be fear......because it's the radical element of Islam which has the most sway and influence globally, what with their doctrine of terror and all? :thinking:
 
I addressed this in the very text you quoted. see here : , I truly pity you in your complete ignorance.




reading comprehension. How does it work, willis?
Your English is so broken I can't even tell what you're trying to say. Feel free to rephrase what you've written so that it is clear and legible.


Until these 1 billion muslims rise up in protest I guess they do.

I'm eagerly awaiting your personal condemnation of the holocaust on the main stream media networks.

Exactly.....which is why I have a difficult time trying to figure out why so-called "moderate" Muslims won't do the same when it comes to their "radical element"......could it be fear......because it's the radical element of Islam which has the most sway and influence globally, what with their doctrine of terror and all? :thinking:

At the absolute most you could estimate 1 million violent, radical muslims in the world. There are currently 1 billion muslims. That represents .1% of the muslim population.
 
Well wherever and whoever these muslims are, they certainly aren't having much effect.

Goalposts moved so far I can't see them anymore.
 
Until these 1 billion muslims rise up in protest I guess they do.

I haven't seen Christians rise up in protest of Christian terror groups.
 
I believe he was referring to the United States, which unfortunately is predominantly christian.

Being predominately christian isn't the same thing as being a christian nation. Also, a crime being committed by a member of an ideology isn't the same as that act being seen as an expression of that ideology. See, what makes islamic terrorism "islamic" is the fact that the exercises are justified through the perceived theological ideals of it.
 
Your English is so broken I can't even tell what you're trying to say. Feel free to rephrase what you've written so that it is clear and legible.

It seems pretty clear and straight forward to me. Maybe you are just hiding behind dishonesty and a firm conviction that you are right, despite the facts?

But I was highlighting that you are raising an objection that was clearly addressed in the very post you quoted.
 
That's ridiculous. They are terrorists to whom? And why are they terrorists? And how do you know they are Muslim anyway?



What the heck are you talking about?

What in the hell are you talking about. I'm talking about drone strikes against terrorists. Now, I realize that to some, these folks aren't terrorists at all but rather heroes battling American imperialism by blowing themselves and other innocents to bits.

I'm talking about the fact that drone strikes are aimed at terrorists and terrorist sympathizers. I realize that people like you would rather wait until they kill a few americans before getting outraged, but for me - and for most americans - I like the fact that there isn't an Al Quaeda terrorist anywhere in the world that doesn't go to sleep at night without the thought in the back of his mind that Mr. Drone might visit him. These people have received sanctuary in Pakistan, and those who give them sanctuary can't complain when they get caught in the explosion.
 
I haven't seen Christians rise up in protest of Christian terror groups.

Which 'Christian terrorist groups' would these be?
 
I think you're lying.....obviously they're not real Muslims if they were drinking alcohol........:D

LOL nope not lying at all

and they arent real Muslims according to who? you?
 
That is an insane argument. Those that fight wars are following military orders not acting out of hatered for firing upon their intended targets.

I never said otherwise. It is therefore not my argument.

There is a distinct difference between a crazed mob targeting any people of a different religion and fighting a well defined enemy in a war.

Indeed the distinct difference is asymmetrical warfare. The only reason they do not match the West's military power and might is because it isn't available to them. Well defined enemies ain't what they used to be. In most cases when fighting a much superior force, being a well defined enemy is courting swift defeat. Instead, you use what you have available, often the easily manipulated public masses. Constant social unrest is an advantage to the weaker opponent in asymmetric warfare.

If you fail to see that difference then any further argument with you is obviously not worthwhile. Using your "logic" then most US crime is also "religious" violence, perpetrated mostly by Christians (and mainly upon Christians).

What I am not doing is looking at it linearly.
 
Being predominately christian isn't the same thing as being a christian nation. Also, a crime being committed by a member of an ideology isn't the same as that act being seen as an expression of that ideology. See, what makes islamic terrorism "islamic" is the fact that the exercises are justified through the perceived theological ideals of it.

Like people who blow up abortion clinics.
 
Turkey (which is according to wikipedia, 99% Muslim) is politically repressive to you?

They have free elections and full voting rights for all adults.

That is a politically repressive society to you?

Okaaaaay.

you cant teach people anything unless they want to learn
 
Turkey (which is according to wikipedia, 99% Muslim) is politically repressive to you?

They have free elections and full voting rights for all adults.

That is a politically repressive society to you?

Okaaaaay.

Turkey, though secular in the past despite its muslim majority, is moving in the direction of other countries in the area which means more Sharia and less personal freedoms. Already more journalists have been jailed than ever before and the crackdown will continue when the control of the Internet takes place.
 
It seems pretty clear and straight forward to me. Maybe you are just hiding behind dishonesty and a firm conviction that you are right, despite the facts?

But I was highlighting that you are raising an objection that was clearly addressed in the very post you quoted.

I actually probably should just take a step back and watch. I can't stand christianity or islam, so I should revel in the fact that they are both trying to destroy each other. I guess the part of me that just can't stand hypocritical, ridiculous, rhetoric got ahold of me. My bad.
 
No need, my ancestors went over there and kicked the **** out of the Nazis. When the Muslims stop condemning us for trying to do the same thing with the nutty **** Muslims that act like 8th century idiots, then I will stop condemning them.

So it is about religion?
 
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