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AP PHOTOS: Mob in Pakistan torches Christian homes

I believe he was referring to the United States, which unfortunately is predominantly christian.

Are we a theocracy though? Are drone strikes done in the name of Christ or something?

It's just a deflection. Whenever a terrorist attack or other such action is done by people from one religion people always counter by pointing fingers at something else instead of discussing the issue.
American Christians. Or do you think only non-Christains of this predominantly Christian nation are permitted to fly drones and blow up **** in Muslim countries?

This is an extremely weak argument. America is not a theocracy, drone strikes are conducted under orders, not at the will of a drone technician flying the thing. Are the drone strikes done in the name of Christ? Your deflection may have some validity if a Christian did a drone strike in the name of God or something, but that isn't the case and it's a rather weak deflection from the issue in the OP.
 
of course it is my religion and l know it better than you and yes it is my decision to make as a person who knows it more than you.....

sects are condemned in kuran ,these people are uneducated enough to learn their own religion

so they are not real muslims

Allah in Kuran doesnt want you to kill teh ones who mock muhammed

he just wants you to keep away from them.............

Sorry Medusa, I like you, but regardless of whether they are "real" Muslims or not, they keep doing these things in the name of Allah...........and, for the most part, the "moderate" Muslim world never openly condemns them. Also, blashemy (against Allah, obviously not the Christian God) is against the law in Pakistan and in some cases punishable by death....this is not tolerance in any shape form or fashion. :shrug:
 
American Christians. Or do you think only non-Christains of this predominantly Christian nation are permitted to fly drones and blow up **** in Muslim countries?

So we sold these drones to Israel and instructed them that they could ONLY use them against Muslims and ONLY if they did so in the name of Jesus Christ? You funny guy, you. :lol: :roll:
 
How about Christians blowing up Muslim houses with drones?

The difference, of course, being that those homes aren't being blown up because they're Muslim. They're being blown up because that's where terrorists live, or hide, or skulk. If you choose to lie down with dogs, don't complain if the flea powder sometimes lands on you.

Great analogy, though. A new candidate for the Worst Analogy of the Year.
 
Sorry Medusa, I like you, but regardless of whether they are "real" Muslims or not, they keep doing these things in the name of Allah...........and, for the most part, the "moderate" Muslim world never openly condemns them. Also, blashemy (against Allah, obviously not the Christian God) is against the law in Pakistan and in some cases punishable by death....this is not tolerance in any shape form or fashion. ;shrug:

it depends on how you define " moderate "


flluffy , it is not Allah's and Kuran's fault if such perverts are attacking the other people.l hope you understand my point . and pakistan is not the authority in islam like popedom in catholism .muslim world cant be held responsible for their miserable crimes .
 
Are we a theocracy though? Are drone strikes done in the name of Christ or something?

It's just a deflection. Whenever a terrorist attack or other such action is done by people from one religion people always counter by pointing fingers at something else instead of discussing the issue.


This is an extremely weak argument. America is not a theocracy, drone strikes are conducted under orders, not at the will of a drone technician flying the thing. Are the drone strikes done in the name of Christ? Your deflection may have some validity if a Christian did a drone strike in the name of God or something, but that isn't the case and it's a rather weak deflection from the issue in the OP.

The point was, the name of the thread "Muslims torch christian homes in pakistan" quite closely resembles the other side of the story being represented in the middle east "christians bomb muslim homes in afghanistan". Both religious texts are incredibly violent and intolerant. Neither of them should be involved in politics.

it depends on how you define " moderate "


flluffy , it is not Allah's and Kuran's fault if such perverts are attacking the other people.l hope you understand my point . and pakistan is not the authority in islam like popedom in catholism .muslim world cant be held responsible for their miserable crimes .

Perhaps if I were to go out and stone some people in the name of christianity, Fluffy would understand what it's like to be unwillingly associated with radicals.
 
of course it is my religion and l know it better than you and yes it is my decision to make as a person who knows it more than you.....

sects are condemned in kuran ,these people are uneducated enough to learn their own religion

so they are not real muslims

Allah in Kuran doesnt want you to kill teh ones who mock muhammed

he just wants you to keep away from them.............

Perhaps you should discuss this dogmatic problem with your Imam, or seek further guidance from the Koran. I'm more interested in the topic at hand, which is the question of why Muslims continue to torch Christian homes and Churches.
 
I believe he was referring to the United States, which unfortunately is predominantly christian.

Funny how many people only argue that the US is a Christian Nation when it benefits them. In a thread about Atheism this point would be contested vehemently by the same people. :lol:
 
How about Christians blowing up Muslim houses with drones?

You certainly can be opposed to drone attacks, no question.

But it's not the same thing. They're not targeted because the US is Christian and because they are Muslim.
 
The point was, the name of the thread "Muslims torch christian homes in pakistan" quite closely resembles the other side of the story being represented in the middle east "christians bomb muslim homes in afghanistan". Both religious texts are incredibly violent and intolerant. Neither of them should be involved in politics.



Perhaps if I were to go out and stone some people in the name of christianity, Fluffy would understand what it's like to be unwillingly associated with radicals.

True.

And they also do not take into account the fact that religion is often just an outlet for many other things.

Poverty, political repression, social repression, etc..

Imo, these pay a far, FAR larger role in these 'attacks' then any religion.
 
I wish we could discuss what happened instead of playing a blame game or taking cheap shots at Islam or irrelevantly trying to cast Christianity in a bad light or trying to rationalize the fact that some Christians had their homes destroyed by radicals in Pakistan because they were accused of blasphemy against Islam :shrug:
 
it depends on how you define " moderate "

It seems that a 'moderate' Muslim is one who does not burn does houses, threaten his neighbors, riot in the streets or wrap themselves in explosives.

.muslim world cant be held responsible for their miserable crimes .

Actually it can.
 
Perhaps if I were to go out and stone some people in the name of christianity, Fluffy would understand what it's like to be unwillingly associated with radicals.

If you did, my guess is that you would be openly condemned by the majority of Christian churches today........just like the Westboro Baptist wackos. However, your entire point is hypothetical nonsense as you have no evidence of modern Christians doing this in the name of Christ while dancing around waving crosses, Bibles, and Christian flags...........Muslims on the other hand.......meh.....their actions speak for them.
 
the only difference is not their image of course but just want to show what a sunni means in reality.
sunni

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just muslim

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I wish we could discuss what happened instead of playing a blame game or taking cheap shots at Islam or irrelevantly trying to cast Christianity in a bad light or trying to rationalize the fact that some Christians had their homes destroyed by radicals in Pakistan because they were accused of blasphemy against Islam :shrug:

Without trying to sound like the "he started it" type of child, I simply tend to pounce when people like Fluffy, a mega religious christian, call out the entirety of 1 billion muslims as being violent, because a few asshole muslims burned some houses down.

If you did, my guess is that you would be openly condemned by the majority of Christian churches today........just like the Westboro Baptist wackos. However, your entire point is hypothetical nonsense as you have no evidence of modern Christians doing this in the name of Christ while dancing around waving crosses, Bibles, and Christian flags...........Muslims on the other hand.......meh.....their actions speak for them.

If you had any idea what you were talking about you'd know that most muslim religious establishments would condemn violence against those of other faith. You like to hone in on a few rotten egg examples in order to label 1 billion people as inherently violent. I find it particularly disgusting and contradictory as you are an adamant religious member yourself. You would fight till you're dying breath to disassociate yourself with radical christians.
 
True.

And they also do not take into account the fact that religion is often just an outlet for many other things.

Poverty, political repression, social repression, etc..

Imo, these pay a far, FAR larger role in these 'attacks' then any religion.

Actually many Islamic terrorists came from very wealthy backgrounds and were well educated with Usama bin Laden being just one example. He should have asked himself whether or not Islam contributed to these repressions, given that Islamic countries tend to be doctrinaire and third world.
 
Perhaps you should discuss this dogmatic problem with your Imam, or seek further guidance from the Koran. I'm more interested in the topic at hand, which is the question of why Muslims continue to torch Christian homes and Churches.


my reference is not ignorant sunni imams :2wave:

nobody can teach me my own religion!!
 
It seems that a 'moderate' Muslim is one who does not burn does houses, threaten his neighbors, riot in the streets or wrap themselves in explosives.



Actually it can.

is your reference monastery ?
 
SO some nutballs (who happen to be Muslim) did something bad, nothing new

i just drank with some neighborhood friends last night, they happen to be Muslim, i survived just fine, go figure

so nonsensical making this about religion and not about what actually happened and the nutballs that did this, i always laugh at dishonest, biased, uneducated nonsense like this.
 
it depends on how you define " moderate "


flluffy , it is not Allah's and Kuran's fault if such perverts are attacking the other people.l hope you understand my point . and pakistan is not the authority in islam like popedom in catholism .muslim world cant be held responsible for their miserable crimes .

I know that you are Muslim Medusa.....and I do not hold you responsible for these kinds of things.....or against any individual Muslim who acts in a tolerant manner......my point is that if the majority of so-called "moderate" Imams would openly stand up and condemn these actions as you bravely do so here........the overall image of Islam would improve greatly.

As long as the "reasonble" and more "tolerant" Muslim leaders continue to cower in fear of the more radical element.....it will remain a religion "ruled" by radicals and extemists.......and will continue to br judged thusly.

Unfortunately, the world judges us by our actions .......not just by what we "say we believe."

And, btw, I'm just as disgusted by any Christian who would perform such unGodly acts in the name of my God. :shrug:
 
You appear to talking out of your anus. You have nothing to back this up.

When approximately 75% to 78% of the U.S. military identifies itself as "Christian", a likely higher number for member in the USAF, the facts aren't coming out of my anus. Maybe it's difficult to hear with your lips being too close. ;)
 
Without trying to sound like the "he started it" type of child, I simply tend to pounce when people like Fluffy, a mega religious christian, call out the entirety of 1 billion muslims as being violent, because a few asshole muslims burned some houses down.

Perhaps there will be less pouncing when muslims start speaking out on the violence within their religion. Until that happens they can pretty much expect to be condemned for their violence, or blaming others for it..



If you had any idea what you were talking about you'd know that most muslim religious establishments would condemn violence against those of other faith.

Yes, we can see that on these boards with all the denial going on, as well as the blaming all their actions on others. These are not adults we're dealing with, just old children having another tantrum.
 
Actually many Islamic terrorists came from very wealthy backgrounds and were well educated with Usama bin Laden being just one example. He should have asked himself whether or not Islam contributed to these repressions, given that Islamic countries tend to be doctrinaire and third world.

I typed: Poverty, political repression, social repression, etc..

And most of the 9/11 attackers were from Saudi Arabia (as was bin laden) - which is an INCREDIBLY repressive country.

Among many examples - it is the only country in the entire world where it is illegal for women to drive.


Religion is the outlet for most of these people's anger - not the source of it.

And those that do it not out of anger - are probably just nuts.
 
SO some nutballs (who happen to be Muslim) did something bad, nothing new

i just drank with some neighborhood friends last night, they happen to be Muslim, i survived just fine, go figure

so nonsensical making this about religion and not about what actually happened and the nutballs that did this, i always laugh at dishonest, biased, uneducated nonsense like this.

I think you're lying.....obviously they're not real Muslims if they were drinking alcohol........:D
 
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