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    re: AP PHOTOS: Mob in Pakistan torches Christian homes

    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyNinja View Post
    Sorry Medusa, I like you, but regardless of whether they are "real" Muslims or not, they keep doing these things in the name of Allah...........and, for the most part, the "moderate" Muslim world never openly condemns them. Also, blashemy (against Allah, obviously not the Christian God) is against the law in Pakistan and in some cases punishable by death....this is not tolerance in any shape form or fashion. ;shrug:
    it depends on how you define " moderate "


    flluffy , it is not Allah's and Kuran's fault if such perverts are attacking the other people.l hope you understand my point . and pakistan is not the authority in islam like popedom in catholism .muslim world cant be held responsible for their miserable crimes .
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    re: AP PHOTOS: Mob in Pakistan torches Christian homes

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Are we a theocracy though? Are drone strikes done in the name of Christ or something?

    It's just a deflection. Whenever a terrorist attack or other such action is done by people from one religion people always counter by pointing fingers at something else instead of discussing the issue.


    This is an extremely weak argument. America is not a theocracy, drone strikes are conducted under orders, not at the will of a drone technician flying the thing. Are the drone strikes done in the name of Christ? Your deflection may have some validity if a Christian did a drone strike in the name of God or something, but that isn't the case and it's a rather weak deflection from the issue in the OP.
    The point was, the name of the thread "Muslims torch christian homes in pakistan" quite closely resembles the other side of the story being represented in the middle east "christians bomb muslim homes in afghanistan". Both religious texts are incredibly violent and intolerant. Neither of them should be involved in politics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    it depends on how you define " moderate "


    flluffy , it is not Allah's and Kuran's fault if such perverts are attacking the other people.l hope you understand my point . and pakistan is not the authority in islam like popedom in catholism .muslim world cant be held responsible for their miserable crimes .
    Perhaps if I were to go out and stone some people in the name of christianity, Fluffy would understand what it's like to be unwillingly associated with radicals.
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    re: AP PHOTOS: Mob in Pakistan torches Christian homes

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    of course it is my religion and l know it better than you and yes it is my decision to make as a person who knows it more than you.....

    sects are condemned in kuran ,these people are uneducated enough to learn their own religion

    so they are not real muslims

    Allah in Kuran doesnt want you to kill teh ones who mock muhammed

    he just wants you to keep away from them.............
    Perhaps you should discuss this dogmatic problem with your Imam, or seek further guidance from the Koran. I'm more interested in the topic at hand, which is the question of why Muslims continue to torch Christian homes and Churches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I believe he was referring to the United States, which unfortunately is predominantly christian.
    Funny how many people only argue that the US is a Christian Nation when it benefits them. In a thread about Atheism this point would be contested vehemently by the same people.
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    re: AP PHOTOS: Mob in Pakistan torches Christian homes

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    How about Christians blowing up Muslim houses with drones?
    You certainly can be opposed to drone attacks, no question.

    But it's not the same thing. They're not targeted because the US is Christian and because they are Muslim.
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    re: AP PHOTOS: Mob in Pakistan torches Christian homes

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    The point was, the name of the thread "Muslims torch christian homes in pakistan" quite closely resembles the other side of the story being represented in the middle east "christians bomb muslim homes in afghanistan". Both religious texts are incredibly violent and intolerant. Neither of them should be involved in politics.



    Perhaps if I were to go out and stone some people in the name of christianity, Fluffy would understand what it's like to be unwillingly associated with radicals.
    True.

    And they also do not take into account the fact that religion is often just an outlet for many other things.

    Poverty, political repression, social repression, etc..

    Imo, these pay a far, FAR larger role in these 'attacks' then any religion.

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    re: AP PHOTOS: Mob in Pakistan torches Christian homes

    I wish we could discuss what happened instead of playing a blame game or taking cheap shots at Islam or irrelevantly trying to cast Christianity in a bad light or trying to rationalize the fact that some Christians had their homes destroyed by radicals in Pakistan because they were accused of blasphemy against Islam
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    re: AP PHOTOS: Mob in Pakistan torches Christian homes

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    it depends on how you define " moderate "
    It seems that a 'moderate' Muslim is one who does not burn does houses, threaten his neighbors, riot in the streets or wrap themselves in explosives.

    .muslim world cant be held responsible for their miserable crimes .
    Actually it can.

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    re: AP PHOTOS: Mob in Pakistan torches Christian homes

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post

    Perhaps if I were to go out and stone some people in the name of christianity, Fluffy would understand what it's like to be unwillingly associated with radicals.
    If you did, my guess is that you would be openly condemned by the majority of Christian churches today........just like the Westboro Baptist wackos. However, your entire point is hypothetical nonsense as you have no evidence of modern Christians doing this in the name of Christ while dancing around waving crosses, Bibles, and Christian flags...........Muslims on the other hand.......meh.....their actions speak for them.
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    re: AP PHOTOS: Mob in Pakistan torches Christian homes

    the only difference is not their image of course but just want to show what a sunni means in reality.
    sunni

    yusufislam.jpg


    just muslim

    glitterati_muhammed_ali_laila_20050627-1.jpg
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