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    Re: Jodi Arias Trial: 'Why Should We Believe You Now?'

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Why after shooting him, did she stab him multiple times and slit his throat? Seems weird to me. Maybe he was abusing her like she claims.

    Still murder though.
    The supposed abuse she points to is his wanting to tie her to a tree and have anal sex with her. But the entirety of the testimony shows that she was in a consensual sexual relationship with him. It shows Alexander being guilty of nothing more than being kinky, something that would not in any way justify her killing him.

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    Re: Jodi Arias Trial: 'Why Should We Believe You Now?'

    I definitely do not see this as a death penalty case. It's a crime of passion or whatever they call it when the end result should be a plea bargain for manslaughter these days. Was there ever an offer like that on the table?

    It may be that there is a bit of sexism here because there are plenty of examples of men only receiving 15-20 years after killing their wives, if they confess and strike a deal. In fact, we know one guy whose dad killed his second wife that only received a 14-year sentence, and he shot her in the face, twice. Another person we know actually kidnapped his estranged wife, raped her and killed her in cold blood--he got 30 years.

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    Re: Jodi Arias Trial: 'Why Should We Believe You Now?'

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I definitely do not see this as a death penalty case. It's a crime of passion or whatever they call it when the end result should be a plea bargain for manslaughter these days. Was there ever an offer like that on the table?

    It may be that there is a bit of sexism here because there are plenty of examples of men only receiving 15-20 years after killing their wives, if they confess and strike a deal. In fact, we know one guy whose dad killed his second wife that only received a 14-year sentence, and he shot her in the face, twice. Another person we know actually kidnapped his estranged wife, raped her and killed her in cold blood--he got 30 years.
    I agree that she should not get the death penalty, but I'm against the death penalty in general. If I did believe in the death penalty, I could point to her obvious premeditation to do this. She drove over a thousand miles in a rent-a-car with gas cans filled with gas in the trunk to avoid detection. On the other hand, she did not exhibit a pattern of murdering people like a David Berkowitz type. I think she should be convicted of first-degree murder, but not get the death penalty. I think she should get life. I can't speak to the cases you cite because I don't know all the details, but I think in general when murder is premeditated, the killer should spend the rest of his or her life in prison.

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    Re: Jodi Arias Trial: 'Why Should We Believe You Now?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    I agree that she should not get the death penalty, but I'm against the death penalty in general. If I did believe in the death penalty, I could point to her obvious premeditation to do this. She drove over a thousand miles in a rent-a-car with gas cans filled with gas in the trunk to avoid detection. On the other hand, she did not exhibit a pattern of murdering people like a David Berkowitz type. I think she should be convicted of first-degree murder, but not get the death penalty. I think she should get life. I can't speak to the cases you cite because I don't know all the details, but I think in general when murder is premeditated, the killer should spend the rest of his or her life in prison.
    The guy who shot his wife in the face, twice, was a doctor. She, his nurse. The two of them were in cahoots to defraud the government. In the end she wanted to leave him and take the kids. She tried to use the fraud as leverage, threatening to tell the government everything unless he gave her what she wanted. He killed her on purpose, but it wasn't easy to prove. So the prosecutor took the deal for manslaughter.

    The other case was clearly premeditated. He even had rope with duct tape to tie her up and gag her, a shovel and plastic bags to bury her and butchering tools to chop her up in his truck. The prosecutor talked the family into settling for the 30-year sentence simply to avoid a long trial and risk losing to an insanity defense.

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