View Poll Results: Should We be Allowed to Drink Alcohol On Airlines?

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Thread: Backlash to TSA's allowance of Knives and Clubs on Planes.....

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    Backlash to TSA's allowance of Knives and Clubs on Planes.....

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Flight attendants, pilots, federal air marshals and even insurance companies are part of a growing backlash to the Transportation Security Administration's new policy allowing passengers to carry small knives and sports equipment like souvenir baseball bats and golf clubs onto planes.



    The new policy, which goes into effect on April 25, permits folding knives with blades that are 2.36 inches or less in length and are less than 1/2-inch wide. The policy is aimed at allowing passengers to carry pen knives, corkscrews with small blades and other small knives.

    Passengers also will be allowed to include in their carry-on luggage novelty-sized baseball bats less than 24 inches long, toy plastic bats, billiard cues, ski poles, hockey sticks, lacrosse sticks and two golf clubs. Items like box cutters and razor blades are still prohibited.

    Not all flights, however, have federal air marshals or armed pilots onboard.

    Rather, "acts of aberrant, abusive and abnormal passenger behavior known as air rage remain the most persistent threat to aviation security," he said.

    The International Air Transport Association recently reported that the incidence of air rage cases was way up, with an estimated 10,000-plus such events annually, Thomas said.

    Adler, representing the air marshals, said aviation security is neither "terrorist proof nor psycho proof," and both should be protected against.....snip~

    Backlash grows to allowing knives, clubs on planes - Yahoo! News

    Yet box cutters and razor blades are still prohibited .....It appears they will ask Congress to block the policy change by the TSA. Here we are being told these weapons cannot bring down a plane, yet they admit all planes don't have air marshals nor pilots with guns. Those little baseball bats could do some damage. So I don't think they can say a plane couldn't be taken over for sure.

    Which then again it is okay to bring knives that can still do damage and way more than a boxcutter can. Airline Rage is up and do they think it will decrease with more flights?

    But then it is okay to drink on planes. Should we allow Airlines to pass out Alcohol anymore? So now we can have weapons, while getting intoxicated over 10,000 feet, yet peoples public safety isn't compromised? We know we will end up having some Nuts attack someone. Some stewardess, or co pliot, and more than likely another passenger. Already we hear of planes being diverted and landing due to some unruly passenger. Or due to something they said even. But again.....I don't see how this still isn't forcing a plane down.

    So the Question I have is.....Should we be Allowed to Drink Alcohol on Airlines.

    1. Yes....at least a 2 drink minimum to calm nerves so I don't punch that lib/con in the back of the head this whole flight.
    2. No.....Safety first, take anything that looks dangerous.
    3. Don't know.....Don't care just let me have a cigarette.
    4. What about the pilots.....if we cant drink then they shouldn't.
    5. Can I still get Rum Cake?

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    Re: Backlash to TSA's allowance of Knives and Clubs on Planes.....

    Okay.....I'll throw in a Bonus

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    Re: Backlash to TSA's allowance of Knives and Clubs on Planes.....

    of course not .we are already on the air
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    Re: Backlash to TSA's allowance of Knives and Clubs on Planes.....

    I have several extended family members as flight attendants. They are furious about this idea. They would be the ones supseptable to injury or hostage position if someone were so inclined.

    Adding alcohol to the mix, and it could get very nasty.
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    Re: Backlash to TSA's allowance of Knives and Clubs on Planes.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Okay.....I'll throw in a Bonus

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    They'll notice if you try to join the Mile High Club? Them, and a couple odd hundred passengers, lol.
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    Re: Backlash to TSA's allowance of Knives and Clubs on Planes.....

    two drink minimum. I don't want to fly with a bunch of teetotalers. plus, the alcohol might make teething babies quieter.

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    Re: Backlash to TSA's allowance of Knives and Clubs on Planes.....

    I voted for drinks but in my smoking days I needed a cigarette much worse!!

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    Re: Backlash to TSA's allowance of Knives and Clubs on Planes.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    WASHINGTON (AP) — Flight attendants, pilots, federal air marshals and even insurance companies are part of a growing backlash to the Transportation Security Administration's new policy allowing passengers to carry small knives and sports equipment like souvenir baseball bats and golf clubs onto planes.



    The new policy, which goes into effect on April 25, permits folding knives with blades that are 2.36 inches or less in length and are less than 1/2-inch wide. The policy is aimed at allowing passengers to carry pen knives, corkscrews with small blades and other small knives.

    Passengers also will be allowed to include in their carry-on luggage novelty-sized baseball bats less than 24 inches long, toy plastic bats, billiard cues, ski poles, hockey sticks, lacrosse sticks and two golf clubs. Items like box cutters and razor blades are still prohibited.

    Not all flights, however, have federal air marshals or armed pilots onboard.

    Rather, "acts of aberrant, abusive and abnormal passenger behavior known as air rage remain the most persistent threat to aviation security," he said.

    The International Air Transport Association recently reported that the incidence of air rage cases was way up, with an estimated 10,000-plus such events annually, Thomas said.

    Adler, representing the air marshals, said aviation security is neither "terrorist proof nor psycho proof," and both should be protected against.....snip~

    Backlash grows to allowing knives, clubs on planes - Yahoo! News

    Yet box cutters and razor blades are still prohibited .....It appears they will ask Congress to block the policy change by the TSA. Here we are being told these weapons cannot bring down a plane, yet they admit all planes don't have air marshals nor pilots with guns. Those little baseball bats could do some damage. So I don't think they can say a plane couldn't be taken over for sure.

    Which then again it is okay to bring knives that can still do damage and way more than a boxcutter can. Airline Rage is up and do they think it will decrease with more flights?

    But then it is okay to drink on planes. Should we allow Airlines to pass out Alcohol anymore? So now we can have weapons, while getting intoxicated over 10,000 feet, yet peoples public safety isn't compromised? We know we will end up having some Nuts attack someone. Some stewardess, or co pliot, and more than likely another passenger. Already we hear of planes being diverted and landing due to some unruly passenger. Or due to something they said even. But again.....I don't see how this still isn't forcing a plane down.

    So the Question I have is.....Should we be Allowed to Drink Alcohol on Airlines.

    1. Yes....at least a 2 drink minimum to calm nerves so I don't punch that lib/con in the back of the head this whole flight.
    2. No.....Safety first, take anything that looks dangerous.
    3. Don't know.....Don't care just let me have a cigarette.
    4. What about the pilots.....if we cant drink then they shouldn't.
    5. Can I still get Rum Cake?
    Well, I think if one isn't allowed to have alcohol on planes, they'll just load up at the airport bar. Two drink maximum and none if one appears intoxicated would seem reasonable. Stiff fines for those who cause a problem on a plane...posted "rules of the road," if you will, at boarding. That's my uneducated opinion.

    Frankly, I think the flight attendants are in the best position to call the shot on this one. They are in the front lines and know one helluva lot more about consequences of in-flight drinking than anyone here. I couldn't care any less which way it goes.

    As for knives, souvenir baseball bats and the like? I think TSA is nutz. If it's too time-consuming to collect them all, they should fine people $25 an item and use that to fund their added needed security to enforce. Don't have the $25 right-then-right-there? You don't fly.
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    Re: Backlash to TSA's allowance of Knives and Clubs on Planes.....

    Absolutely no alcoholic beverages - IV's only. And if you have an IV, you must also be gagged and blindfolded. Anyone demonstrating air rage should be thrown off the plane immediately. I could clean this mess up in a day.

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    Re: Backlash to TSA's allowance of Knives and Clubs on Planes.....

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Absolutely no alcoholic beverages - IV's only. And if you have an IV, you must also be gagged and blindfolded. Anyone demonstrating air rage should be thrown off the plane immediately. I could clean this mess up in a day.
    Good morning, Humbolt.

    Agreed. If the threat of being thrown off the plane at 35,000 feet doesn't serve as an incentive to good behavior, I don't know what will! Although you will have your inevitable whiners who would ask for a parachute. They should just be told there is no money for extras like that!

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