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    Re: Barack Obama 'has authority to use drone strikes to kill Americans on US soil'

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    Barack Obama 'has authority to use drone strikes to kill Americans on US soil' - Telegraph



    I'm not sure where to start on this one, so, I'll just put it out there, and see what others comments are?
    In a situation in which Americans have joined with foreign combatants to make war on the US those persons become foreign combatants. They have basically renounced their US citizenships. They can be taken out militarily any way possible, by sniper, land mine, tank, howitzer, drone or whatever, with no due process beyond identification (friend or foe). It doesn't matter where the military activity is taking place. These have always been the rules of war; it is not a new development due to the war on terror.

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    Re: Barack Obama 'has authority to use drone strikes to kill Americans on US soil'

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Sorry, but drone strikes on noncombatant Americans
    Is that what Erick Holder is arguing for?
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    Re: Barack Obama 'has authority to use drone strikes to kill Americans on US soil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Is that what Erick Holder is arguing for?
    That possibility is what Rand Paul was trying to get a response from Holder about. Paul was concerned about drone strikes against political dissidents while they were having lunch at a café and the like.

    It might be reasonable to ask about that at a time such as now, when leftists are calling Tea Party members and others who they simply disagree with terrorists. Does Holder ascribe to that appellation? I wouldn't put it past him.

    I thought Holder's original response was clear enough and ruled out that kind of thing, assuming a reasonable definition for the word "terrorist". But is Holder reasonable?

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    Re: Barack Obama 'has authority to use drone strikes to kill Americans on US soil'

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    That possibility is what Rand Paul was trying to get a response from Holder about. Paul was concerned about drone strikes against political dissidents while they were having lunch at a café and the like.

    It might be reasonable to ask about that at a time such as now, when leftists are calling Tea Party members and others who they simply disagree with terrorists. Does Holder ascribe to that appellation? I wouldn't put it past him.

    I thought Holder's original response was clear enough and ruled out that kind of thing, assuming a reasonable definition for the word "terrorist". But is Holder reasonable?
    It was a simple yes or no answer. Is that what Erick Holder is arguing for?

    A) Yes.
    B) No.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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