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Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

who said it was Jesus Christ.

do you believe you can just go out and kill, anyone, ...taking their life.

if you follow those who believe that the unborn is.. life.........then it is illegal to take it.......

their are plenty of libertarians who don't believe in Jesus, but just......respect and hold life dear.

Whose life?
 
who said it was Jesus Christ.

do you believe you can just go out and kill, anyone, ...taking their life.

if you follow those who believe that the unborn is.. life.........then it is illegal to take it.......

their are plenty of libertarians who don't believe in Jesus, but just......respect and hold life dear.

The whole "problem" of abortion is only a "problem" of the Abrahamic religions............Left unbadgered, most humans could care less..................
 
You are the one who claims the only powers the govt has are those enumerated in the constitution, not me

Yet, you are all too happy to claim that the govt has powers that are not enumerated in the constitution, demostrating that even you don't believe the crap your spew.

So where does the constitution say that the govt has the power and the duty to protect all human life?

ask the question.

why are governments created?

to secure the rights of men, "because without government there is no freedom", because Everyone must be on guard for their life.

"That to secure these rights, ------>Governments are instituted among Men"

"if men were angels no government would be necessary"

this is what the founders are saying..we have government to see that people are protected, from those who would seek enslave others.

does not governments act, when someone is killed by another....yes its fulfilling it role..to protect.
 
ask the question.

why are governments created?

to secure the rights of men, "because without government there is no freedom", because Everyone must be on guard for their life.

"That to secure these rights, ------>Governments are instituted among Men"

"if men were angels no government would be necessary"

this is what the founders are saying..we have government to see that people are protected, from those who would seek enslave others.

does not governments act, when someone is killed by another....yes its fulfilling it role..to protect.

Your question is not an answer

You have said that the only powers the govt has are those enumerated in the constitution.

So where does the constitution say that the govt has the power and the duty to protect all human life?
 
life of those who have not committed any transgression.

We all die, regardless of our "sins", it's the way of the world and there is no escaping it..................
 
Your question is not an answer

You have said that the only powers the govt has are those enumerated in the constitution.

So where does the constitution say that the govt has the power and the duty to protect all human life?

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons<----------, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
 
The whole "problem" of abortion is only a "problem" of the Abrahamic religions............Left unbadgered, most humans could care less..................

Good evening, Bonz.

Are you referring to the "multiply and be fruitful" thing? :) How do other countries handle abortion?
 
that is ONLY what you think, but others think differently then you.

Of course. They also believe the earth is 6,000 years old and that man ran with dinosaurs. Doesn't make them right. Just makes them think differently.

There is NO brain stem attached to a fetus in the first trimester. This means the fetus is a vegetable, not able to sustain itself outside an umbilical cord. THIS means there is no LIFE in the abortion a woman can perform under Roe v Wade without consent from a doctor.
 
Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons<----------, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.



Again, the rights for human life is for the woman in the pregnancy equation. SHE has houses, papers, and effects
 
Good evening, Bonz.

Are you referring to the "multiply and be fruitful" thing? :) How do other countries handle abortion?

I lived with some people from Thailand and they seemed to view it like getting a boil lanced..................
 
are you making the case that a person should be secure in all things, life and --------------------->property?

A human should. Not a fetus, zygote nor embryo because until they become ejected from the womb, they are not considered human. A human being sustains their own life and can actively pursue life and property. A fetus cannot.

Are you trying to make an argument that a fetus inside the womb of a woman, or a zygote or embryo, has the same rights as a woman does?
 
I lived with some people from Thailand and they seemed to view it like getting a boil lanced..................



Or maybe it was more as though they were thinking of the lives involved if the pregnancy came to a birth?
 
Or maybe it was more as though they were thinking of the lives involved if the pregnancy came to a birth?

Well, exactly. I have a tendency to get theatrical.......................
 
I lived with some people from Thailand and they seemed to view it like getting a boil lanced..................

eeewww! I guess I can understand that thinking in an overcrowded environment, though. Better than taking a newborn out into the elements and leaving them to die like some countries do, I guess.
 
eeewww! I guess I can understand that thinking in an overcrowded environment, though. Better than taking a newborn out into the elements and leaving them to die like some countries do, I guess.

US being one with a great deal of dumpster babies found each year.
 
With abortions so easy to get, why do that? sad...

Since 1980, abortions have been hard to get. Between insurance denials, Medicaid denials, etc. there are not around.

More women turn to crack doctors and are dying in this nation. This blood in on the hands of those decrying the rights of women to a safe medical abortion.

Pennsylvania Employees Fired In Wake Of Abortion Scandal : NPR

Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett has announced major changes to two state departments that he says will improve clinics where abortions are performed.

A grand jury report released last month detailed horrid conditions at a Philadelphia clinic, including the deaths of seven infants and at least two women. Corbett fired a half-dozen state employees who failed to investigate complaints against the clinic and its doctor.

The clinic, inside a weathered brick building in West Philadelphia, is closed now. The blinds that cover the windows are askew. The Women's Medical Society primarily served poor African-American women and immigrants who thought they were getting cheap abortions.

Horrid Conditions

“ It's not enough to prosecute the wrongdoing. We have to change the culture. That starts here. It starts now.

- Gov. Tom Corbett

The grand jury report on the clinic and its operator, Dr. Kermit Gosnell, came out just when Corbett took office. It detailed filthy conditions: bloodstained furniture, dirty instruments and fetal remains scattered around the facility.

Gosnell is charged with eight counts of murder, including seven babies and one woman who died on the table. According to the report, he delivered babies alive, then severed their spines.

Under Roe V Wade, legitimate abortion clinics had the law they had to follow. No live birth would have been terminated. These are the results of the radical right wing religious cult that calls to end the rights of women and force them into desperate situations.

Almost forget, since the murdering of doctors who perform abortions, the bombing of clinics, the availability of an abortion has decreased, as well.
 
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