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Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

That's *my* argument

Interesting, because it's not the argument you've been posting. It was you who asserted that the goverment decides morality.
 
No one

Who controls the wind?

So IYV, we simply exist, and no one is making any choices? Yet, you believe SCOTUS has the ability to limit the "non-choices" we make? :confused:
 
Interesting, because it's not the argument you've been posting. It was you who asserted that the goverment decides morality.

I retract that last, in rereading what you posted we do agree that government does not decide morality.
 
The constitution gives SCOTUS the power to decide when the constitution allows the govt to limit rights. It's right there, in Art III

Actually, I think the SCOTUS looks at laws made by states or the federal government and then determines if they are in line with the constitution.
 
And yet, it's precisely what you said just a few posts before:

Nope, those two statements are not the same

My statement correctly notes that the govt can limit ones rights

The other statement claims that the govt gives rights, which is untrue
 
The Right tries to restrict access to services which are perfectly legal because it won't charge the women who seek out abortion with murder because then they would reveal themselves as the selfserving control freak ideologues they are......................
 
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Actually, I think the SCOTUS looks at laws made by states or the federal government and then determines if they are in line with the constitution.

Yes, that is a more accurate phrasing. More specifically, when laws limiting the exercise of a right are challenged in court, SCOTUS has the final word
 
Yes, that is a more accurate phrasing. More specifically, when laws limiting the exercise of a right are challenged in court, SCOTUS has the final word

Well said.
 
The Right tries to restict access to services which are perfectly legal because it won't charge the women who seek out abortion with murder because then they would reveal themselves as the selfserving control freak ideologues they are......................

You stepped into the deep muddy when you jumped the shark by defining the opposition's (those opposed to your own bias) argument.
 
Art III

Look it up instead of ignoring the parts of the constitution you don't like


oh, you don't want to provide what you state is in the constitution.......it should be a simple cut and paste......is that to hard for you to comply with
 
Who chooses the the activities of individuals? Again, you're going in circles...

People choose. I've never denied that.

If you had paid attention, you'd know that I denied that people control themselves.

The millions of people we've incarcerated proves me right
 
Yes, that is a more accurate phrasing. More specifically, when laws limiting the exercise of a right are challenged in court, SCOTUS has the final word

Actually, no. By practice, yes, but there is always the overturn by amendment process - THAT is the final word.
 
oh, you don't want to provide what you state is in the constitution.......it should be a simple cut and paste......is that to hard for you to comply with

So now you're going to claim that Art III doesn't exist?

I'm not surprised. I've always known that those who rant the most about how the govt is ignoring the consittution are the ones most likely to ignore the constitution
 
People choose. I've never denied that.

If you had paid attention, you'd know that I denied that people control themselves.

The millions of people we've incarcerated proves me right

Who controls their behavior?
 
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