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Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

sangha said:
No, you can not do what you want with your property. The law, including civil law, can limit what you do with your property
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really, then where is my 5th amendment right?..since constitutional law overrides federal law.

my only limit would be if my right infringes on the right of another person, and i stated ...if i DIDN'T DO THAT.
 
sangha said:
No, you can not do what you want with your property. The law, including civil law, can limit what you do with your property
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And where is that in the Constitution? And why wouldn't that same apply to your body?
 
ernst barkmann said:
really, then where is my 5th amendment right?..since constitutional law overrides federal law.

my only limit would be if my right infringes on the right of another person, and i stated ...if i DIDN'T DO THAT.
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No, your 5th amend rights, like all rights, can be limited.

The govt has the power, granted to it by the constitution, to limit your rights for a variety of reasons.
 
sangha said:
No, your 5th amend rights, like all rights, can be limited.

The govt has the power, granted to it by the constitution, to limit your rights for a variety of reasons.
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Any "rights" granted to government came from the people. Try to remember this little tidbit...
 
sangha said:
No, your 5th amend rights, like all rights, can be limited.

The govt has the power, granted to it by the constitution, to limit your rights for a variety of reasons.
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really where is that in the Constitution, the constitution is a limiting document, it does not expand powers to government, it prohibits government,from violating rights.......which it is to secure, and it limits government to18 duties only
 
sangha said:
Abortion is not murder....
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Exactly!
Abortion is not murder.
Abortion is the ending of a pregnancy and removal of the fetal material.
In fact about 20 percent of all known pregnancies end in a spontaneous abortions also known as miscarriages.
Murder is against the law.
Abortions within the parameters of Roe vs Wade are legal and are not murders.
 
ernst barkmann said:
really where is that in the Constitution, the constitution is a limiting document, it does not expand powers to government, it prohibits government,from violating rights.......which it is to secure, and it limits government to18 duties only
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SCOTUS, which the constitution grants the authority to decide such matters, disagrees

It seems you only adhere to the parts of the constitution you agree with, and ignore the rest, like Art III
 
sangha said:
All over the constitution

And it does apply to our bodies
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Then you should easily be able to produce some quotes proving your position. Semantic argument or subject change coming in 3...2...1...
 
minnie616 said:
Exactly!
Abortion is not murder.
Abortion is the ending of a pregnancy and removal of the fetal material.
In fact about 20 percent of all known pregnancies end in a spontaneous abortions also known as miscarriages.
Murder is against the law.
Abortions within the parameters of Roe vs Wade are legal and are not murders.
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I actually agree with that, but not how you *****foot over the converse side. It's not technically murder, but it IS killing. Abortion may not be murder, but it is legal killing (murder being illegal killing).
 
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