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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    I wonder how much money the Arkansas State Legislators will beg the Federal Government for in order to supplement their social services and CPS cost increases as unwanted births are forced into being?

    Actually...Arkansas women who choose to abortion will simply drive across state lines to have abortions. And eventually...such a law will be overturned as their younger generations become of voting age...and even become legislators. Dark Age thinking will eventually die out even in Arkansas.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    I wonder how much money the Arkansas State Legislators will beg the Federal Government for in order to supplement their social services and CPS cost increases as unwanted births are forced into being?

    Actually...Arkansas women who choose to abortion will simply drive across state lines to have abortions. And eventually...such a law will be overturned as their younger generations become of voting age...and even become legislators. Dark Age thinking will eventually die out even in Arkansas.
    Actually...Abortion was tolerated in the Dark Ages and there were no laws against it.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    I think this law is going to court next month so it should be stricken down before it takes affect.
    Just last week a federal judge ruled that Idaho's fetal pain law banning abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy is unconstitutional.
    That will set a precedent.

    A major court ruling regarding abortion laws in Idaho could have implications across the country.
    A federal judge ruled that Idaho's fetal pain law banning abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy is unconstitutional.
    Idaho is the first of ten states nationwide to have such a law overturned.


    Idaho's law banned abortions after 20 weeks... because experts say that's when the fetus might be able to feel pain.
    Judge Lynn Winmill said the law placed an undue burden on a woman's right to have an abortion.

    "What the judge said is what we know, these laws are unconstitutional and not based on medicine but politics."
    says Hannah Brass Greer of Planned Parenthood.
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    Idaho abortion laws overturned - www.kivitv.com
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    Actually...Abortion was tolerated in the Dark Ages and there were no laws against it.
    Shhh. He ain't trying to hear that.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    I think this law is going to court next month so it should be stricken down before it takes affect.
    Just last week a federal judge ruled that Idaho's fetal pain law banning abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy is unconstitutional.
    That will set a precedent.

    Idaho abortion laws overturned - www.kivitv.com
    It may seem counterintuitive but many of these State's laws are written and passed with the knowledge that they might be struck down. Striking them down creates an opportunity to appeal the decision and to eventually reach the Supreme Court. Contrary to belief, we (pro-lifers) can't go directly to the Supreme Courts and challenge Roe. It would be great if we could. However, the courts don't allow that.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    Actually...Abortion was tolerated in the Dark Ages and there were no laws against it.
    Thanks...for the historical tid-bit.

    Well, maybe I've unfairly judged our ancestors' ability to think logically and rationally. Perhaps I've used the wrong time period in order to make my point, huh? Actually, there were several dark ages...depending on the region. But, given all of the abortions since the Dark Ages (all of them)...they haven't hampered the world's population in the least bit.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Welliam Wittier View Post
    It may seem counterintuitive but many of these State's laws are written and passed with the knowledge that they might be struck down. Striking them down creates an opportunity to appeal the decision and to eventually reach the Supreme Court. Contrary to belief, we (pro-lifers) can't go directly to the Supreme Courts and challenge Roe. It would be great if we could. However, the courts don't allow that.
    Your primary reason to believe that the S.C. would overturn Roe v. Wade is?

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Your primary reason to believe that the S.C. would overturn Roe v. Wade is?
    Probably a hope that literacy would prevail?

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Your primary reason to believe that the S.C. would overturn Roe v. Wade is?
    Here is the short answer.

    At the time Roe was decided, the court said that there were no laws that treated a human fetus as a 'person.'

    The Federal 'Unborn Victims of Violence Act' and many of the State laws against fetal homicide since - have changed that.

    Unlike the times prior to Roe, we now make it a crime of murder to unjustly kill a child in utero and at any stage of their development.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Thanks...for the historical tid-bit.

    Well, maybe I've unfairly judged our ancestors' ability to think logically and rationally. Perhaps I've used the wrong time period in order to make my point, huh? Actually, there were several dark ages...depending on the region. But, given all of the abortions since the Dark Ages (all of them)...they haven't hampered the world's population in the least bit.
    So:

    1. You consider us to be more logical an rational than our ancestors.
    2. Abortion is far more regulated and restrictive now.
    3. So, you seem to be saying that laws and restrictions are more logical and rational.

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