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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by OKgrannie View Post
    Who has the authority to overturn SC rulings? The SC is called "Supreme" for a reason, and that reason is that it is the highest authority. RvW is not actually a law, it is a SC ruling that the states don't have the authority to make blanket anti-abortion laws. It overruled state law, but did not make law; it stated limits on the states for regulating abortion. It is anti-abortionists who need to pass an amendment if they want abortion criminalized, since it is assumed to be legal until declared otherwise by those with the authority to do so.
    Well, congress can step on with legislation that would make roe moot. As I said the sc is not supposed to make law.
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by OKgrannie View Post
    I haven't heard you or anyone else complaining about eggs or sperm being destroyed. That is, before the magic moment they meet.
    Flaw in your logic. The absence of me advocating a position is not proof of my stance on any particular belief one way or the other.
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, congress can step on with legislation that would make roe moot. As I said the sc is not supposed to make law.
    Congress cannot pass laws that violate the US Constitution. The SCOTUS has already ruled that women have the Constitutional right to privacy concerning abortion within certain limits. Congress does not have the authority to violate the Constitution.
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Flaw in your logic. The absence of me advocating a position is not proof of my stance on any particular belief one way or the other.
    I apologize, my bad. I take it then that you do care deeply about the survival of all eggs and sperm, because they are human and alive, and want to criminalize all contraception. Either you do care or you don't care about sperm and eggs.
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by OKgrannie View Post
    I apologize, my bad. I take it then that you do care deeply about the survival of all eggs and sperm, because they are human and alive, and want to criminalize all contraception. Either you do care or you don't care about sperm and eggs.
    Equating eggs and sperm with a zygote is not legit.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Equating eggs and sperm with a zygote is not legit.
    They do share humanness and aliveness with a zygote. "Human" as an adjective.
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by OKgrannie View Post
    They do share humanness and aliveness with a zygote. "Human" as an adjective.
    Why not just go straight to cancer?

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    I think you may have taken this out of context. I was replying to a post about when the government should have involvement. My point was that although there is disagreement over when, there is a time when the government should become involved.

    How about answering the question you quoted: Should the government have no regulations on abortion at nine months?
    I already did, dude. And I have a dozen times before. I swear, people keep asking me this question like they think this time I'll be too shy to answer.

    No, apart from standard medical safety requirements.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by OKgrannie View Post
    Congress cannot pass laws that violate the US Constitution. The SCOTUS has already ruled that women have the Constitutional right to privacy concerning abortion within certain limits. Congress does not have the authority to violate the Constitution.
    Didn't say they did...
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Didn't say they did...
    Then please explain further what you expect Congress to do. Pretty please.

    Originally Posted by j-mac
    Well, congress can step on with legislation that would make roe moot. As I said the sc is not supposed to make law.
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