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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, that is how it works in real life. Do all these women still not yet get it, despite all the money spent on sex education?
    Yes, because birth control is 100% effective right? Do YOU get it yet, that a person has a right to their body and what happens to it? No, you much prefer that BIG GOVERNMENT decides for you and others.

    The man responsible was not mentioned. And it is illegal to carry out an abortion after the baby is 'viable' or BIG GOVERNMENT will step in and she will be FORCED to carry the baby to term..
    Yes, BIG GOVENRMENT does, much to your liking. You like BIG GOVERNMENT. Don't ever say you don't.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

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    Yes, because birth control is 100% effective right?
    Is it? According to whom?
    Do YOU get it yet, that a person has a right to their body and what happens to it?
    That is not true. Even the pro abortionists understand that is not true.
    No, you much prefer that BIG GOVERNMENT decides for you and others.
    Please use quotes rather than just guessing, okay?

    Yes, BIG GOVENRMENT does, much to your liking. You like BIG GOVERNMENT. Don't ever say you don't.
    You're quite fortunate that those babies who were 'viable' weren't somehow subject to IQ tests as part of their 'viability'. You would never have seen the light of day.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Keep dreaming, we are beyond the dark ages where men had control over women's body parts. I know YOU want to return to that era, I don't. As for a fetus rights, are you saying they should all be granted SSN and citizen rights too, and if not, why? You claime they have rights? How can they when they aren't born?



    LOL is that why you and other pro-lifers are trying to get BIG GOVERNMENT involved in forcing women through their pregnancies? As for forcing immorality on the rest of society how? Am I forcing YOUR wife or someone to have an abortion? Therefore, I am forcing NOTHING on society. That is YOU and other conservatives that hate freedom.



    Where did you pull that out of your ass from?



    Are you saying a woman loses ALL CHOICE because she has sex? That's ludicrous.



    Funny, don't see any conservative laws stepping up to support your claim. I only see the right trying to make laws to control a woman's body and nothing about the man.



    Oh yeah, talking on an internet message board annonymously. Oh you activisty you.



    Not emotional at all. You and other pro-lifers show your contempt for women and want big government to force them to carry for 9 months. Your contempt deserves contemp. You have laid out the true ignorance of the pro-life argument.
    Contempt? Hardly....I love women, most of them are more logical than many men I know. But that aside, I know that your bluster is devolving into personal attack only because you ultimately lose this argument every time.

    Look, Your obvious disdain for children, and willing renaming what they are to ease your own conscience for knowingly killing them...It won't help you in the end friend.
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You're quite fortunate that those babies who were 'viable' weren't somehow subject to IQ tests as part of their 'viability'. You would never have seen the light of day.
    LOL that's the best you can do? Really?

    Oh well, you have a losing argument and the fact you like BIG GOVERNMENT is telling more about you than me.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Contempt? Hardly....I love women, most of them are more logical than many men I know. But that aside, I know that your bluster is devolving into personal attack only because you ultimately lose this argument every time.
    I've lost nothing. Abortion is still legal.

    Look, Your obvious disdain for children, and willing renaming what they are to ease your own conscience for knowingly killing them...It won't help you in the end friend.
    I have no disdain for children and in practice for MY life I am pro-life. However, I don't agree with using BIG GOVERNMENT to force that decision on everyone else, YOU do.

    Oh well, you have proven you not only do NOT know me, your comments are quite clueless as well.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I've lost nothing. Abortion is still legal.



    I have no disdain for children and in practice for MY life I am pro-life. However, I don't agree with using BIG GOVERNMENT to force that decision on everyone else, YOU do.

    Oh well, you have proven you not only do NOT know me, your comments are quite clueless as well.
    I don't need to know you personally to recognize the dishonest arguments that are steeped in cliche....
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I don't need to know you personally to recognize the dishonest arguments that are steeped in cliche....
    Nothing dishoenst in what I've posted. However, what has been shown is that conservatives are really for BIG GOVERNMENT.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

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    Is it? According to whom?


    That is not true. Even the pro abortionists understand that is not true.


    Please use quotes rather than just guessing, okay?



    You're quite fortunate that those babies who were 'viable' weren't somehow subject to IQ tests as part of their 'viability'. You would never have seen the light of day.
    You responded to absolutely NOTHING of what he said.

    Who are you to decide what EVERY woman in the US can and can't do with their bodies? Who are YOU to decide women are no more than breeder cows? Please show me in the Bible where God or Christ say women are breeder cows.
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Nothing dishoenst in what I've posted. However, what has been shown is that conservatives are really for BIG GOVERNMENT.


    Absolutely. AND invasion into a person's life and control over their body.
    Alex Carey:

    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Contempt? Hardly....I love women, most of them are more logical than many men I know. But that aside, I know that your bluster is devolving into personal attack only because you ultimately lose this argument every time.

    Look, Your obvious disdain for children, and willing renaming what they are to ease your own conscience for knowingly killing them...It won't help you in the end friend.
    Medical science names the stages of the gestation, not anyone else. Not even the churches who want this banned because they don't believe a woman has a right to decide her future on her own. Nor to decide who will be the father of her children.

    You don't respect women. You consider them nothing more than breeder cows. Show me where Christ considers Mary Magdalene, a prostitute, to be nothing more than a breeder cow.
    Alex Carey:

    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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