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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    what are you trying your usual word game.

    due process of law, protect ones .....life, liberty and property.

    unalienable rights, life liberty and the pursuit of happiness,from the DOI..... the USSC has interpreted that pursuit of happiness, .....translates into property.
    No, it doesn't translate into property. Please quote where the consitution says that the pursuit of happiness translates to property


    i didnt say Benghazi has a thing to due with abortion, i an saying the u.s. seeks justice for the life's of Americans, who's right to life has been taken from them.
    I know. You were just ranting because you have no argument

    The unborn are not citizens. In order to be a citizen, one must be either born in the US, or naturalized. The unborn are neither
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    well that is not my argument, i am stating people who are living, i never mentioned the fetus.

    sangha is stating their in NO right to life....that it does not exist.

    due process of law protects, life liberty and the pursuit of happiness......it is protecting those rights.


    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, -------->nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

    stating a person, ......is not meaning human, is crazy.
    You are posting lies. I never said that there is no right to liffe

    However, you're the one who said the govt only has those powers granted to it by the constitution, yet you can't quote where the constitution says the govt has the power to protect peoples right to life.

    It's not my fault that even you can't adhere to your own beliefs and have to abandon them when they prove themselves insufficient
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Except that I wasn't explaining what a human is, I said nothing about immigrants and I said nothing about aliens of any kind.
    They just don't get it

    They think "human", person, citizen, etc all mean the same thing
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    nope

    There are many things that live that are not beings
    Anything with a brain is a being.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, it doesn't translate into property. Please quote where the consitution says that the pursuit of happiness translates to property






    I know. You were just ranting because you have no argument

    The unborn are not citizens. In order to be a citizen, one must be either born in the US, or naturalized. The unborn are neither
    the USSC court has translated it into ----->property.

    and you argument is wrong, because i have NOT stated the unborn is a citizen.

    in fact i have argued THE case on YOUR side, but you never saw it, because your blind, -------->anything i say...is wrong because of a predisposed thoughts.

    i stated i am NOT on the side of abortion, to have them, that it is my personal opinion, .......but as a libertarian, a person, a human being has a right to do with his body, property as he wills.

    i argued that your body is YOUR property, meaning you have a right to do with it as you will and that means all property, as long as it does not infringe on the rights of others, this even means taking drugs.

    as to the rant, i was not on my usual iMAC, early this morning and instead working off a small PC at another location, and after i saw my typing it was in large caps, and i was not going to retype it all over again.

    as a libertarian, i do not believe in everything people do,........... however i recognize their RIGHT to do things anyway i believe to be wrong...............something you do not, when its comes to other matters of rights.......IE property.
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    you need to read more....

    if government did not protect life ,we would have anarchy....lawlessness
    Then fetuses can't be life, because they are aborted without causing anarchy.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaLiberal View Post
    Then fetuses can't be life, because they are aborted without causing anarchy.
    It's that simple?

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaLiberal View Post
    Anything with a brain is a being.
    A newly fertilized egg has no brain
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post

    However, you're the one who said the govt only has those powers granted to it by the constitution, yet you can't quote where the constitution says the govt has the power to protect peoples right to life.
    then what is the constitution for then?......it creates the federal government, defines their duties, and protects people's natural rights,........which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

    life liberty and property are defined in the BOR, and due process of law protects those-------> named rights.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaLiberal View Post
    Then fetuses can't be life, because they are aborted without causing anarchy.
    i was talking about citizens, not about the unborn......and i have only used the word fetus 1 time, and that was referencing someone.

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