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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanWoman76 View Post
    Why, yes there are accurate records. There are about 14 dumpster babies per year in the United States, according to very well-kept and very accessible death statistics, about 10x lower than the rate in European countries, (hits on Google being a million hits every time a million people shared one news article, the number of hits on Google is a silly answer to the question of how many babies). To call this "very high" is laughable, the numbers are in the thousands per year in Asian countries, excluding China. In China, workers at garbage dumps have testified to how many dead babies they personally find in the average day. (14 dead babies per day found per employee, and trillions of additional tons of garbage never looked through, assuming the unexamined garbage has babies in it at the same rate as the examined garbage, China throws away the equivalent of the population of the United States on a bi-weekly basis.) This is aside from the million female babies aborted every year in China because the parents wanted a boy. It is incredibly easy to have an abortion in China, yet they have so many dumpster babies, well illustrating that your contention that availability of abortion prevents dumpster babies, is an invalid assertion.
    I think some of your figure are in error. The idea that there are that many abortions in China is preposterous...................

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    I think some of your figure are in error. The idea that there are that many abortions in China is preposterous...................
    Dead Newborn In The Gutter of China

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanWoman76 View Post
    Why, yes there are accurate records. There are about 14 dumpster babies per year in the United States, according to very well-kept and very accessible death statistics
    BS

    http://articles.latimes.com/2000/dec/31/news/cl-6641

    Carol McCarty, a Los Angeles advertising executive, has teamed up with Debi Faris, an advocate for abandoned babies and force behind the new law, to create public awareness. McCarty contacted Faris after reading about Faris' widely publicized Garden of Angels, a Calimesa, Calif., cemetery where 44 abandoned newborns from Southern California have been buried in the last four years. Faris also created an entity called Safe Arms, to focus on prevention and to publicize the new law.
    There are no authoritative statistics on the number of abandoned newborn babies. In 1998, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services found, by compiling reports from newspapers around the country, that 105 newborns had been abandoned--33 of them were found dead.
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    I absolutely cannot stand people using google hits for statistics. I just googled "U.S. Presidents"... apparently the have been three hundred and sixty four million U.S Presidents...

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What about women who don't know until they go
    into labor? I mean, should they be forced to care for a baby they knew nothing about?
    They can choose adoption

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In a month most of the women in China would have to have an abortion...................Simply false................

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
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    weeks seems very reasonable. There is no rational reason I can think of to let it go beyond that. Hell, even in Russia they have a 12 week limit. You can pretty much walk into any clinic prior to that and get an abortion no questions asked. Once you reach 12 weeks, though, you're SOL. Medical emergencies only.
    I am curious why people abort late myself. I am kind of assuming it would be for reasons involving fetal health at that point.

    My attitude towards abortion changes when it involves an unplanned pregnancy verses a terminal or severely deformed fetus that the parents planned and wanted. It is tragic, and I think they should have the right to abort.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    in a country of 4 billion people, you think every woman would have to have 12 babies a year in order for a million babies to be born? true, only 1 in 4 chinese people is a woman of reproductive age, but you would still have to be clueless about the difference between (a Milllion, with an M, and a Billion, with a B) , as well as the difference between a month and a year. And no, I didn't postulated an unfounded statement there are a million abortions a year in China. I noted a well-documented and easy-to-look-up fact that a million abortions in China a year occur for the reason that the baby is a girl and the parents want a boy. There are also about 12 million other abortions a year in China, for other reasons, or for reason undeclared, very well documented, proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, and easy to look up. That's not even close to every Chinese woman having an abortion at all, let alone every Chinese woman having an abortion every month. And yes, over 95% of Chinese women who do have abortions, have several abortions a year, and this minority of Chinese women are undoubtedly also responsible for the vast majority of dumpster babies. Although I am sure you were sarcastically implying that an abortion can only take place once every nine months, An abortion can in fact happen once every 28 1/2 days.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    I absolutely cannot stand people using google hits for statistics. I just googled "U.S. Presidents"... apparently the have been three hundred and sixty four million U.S Presidents...
    LOL and they released 8 albums and even won a Grammy. . .and built a Whiskey empire . . . all in the same year.

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