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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    US being one with a great deal of dumpster babies found each year.
    Really? How many and how does it compare with other countries?

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Since 1980, abortions have been hard to get. Between insurance denials, Medicaid denials, etc. there are not around.

    More women turn to crack doctors and are dying in this nation. This blood in on the hands of those decrying the rights of women to a safe medical abortion.

    Pennsylvania Employees Fired In Wake Of Abortion Scandal : NPR



    Under Roe V Wade, legitimate abortion clinics had the law they had to follow. No live birth would have been terminated. These are the results of the radical right wing religious cult that calls to end the rights of women and force them into desperate situations.

    Almost forget, since the murdering of doctors who perform abortions, the bombing of clinics, the availability of an abortion has decreased, as well.
    I remember reading about that case! I was horrified, as I am sure most people were!

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    Amendment IV

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons<----------, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
    That quote does not give the govt the power to protect all human life. It only protects *people" from unreasonable search or seizures.

    IOW, it protects the life of no one and nothing.

    So where does the constitution say that the govt has the power and the duty to protect all human life?
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I rather doubt that story. The Thai people are just not that heartless.

    Legality of Abortion in Thailand | Thailand Law
    They also wanted to get me to try dog, but I told them upfront that unless I was starving, I wouldn't even think about eating one.................

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    are you making the case that a person should be secure in all things, life and --------------------->property?
    The quote says nothing about protecting any life, human or otherwise
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Really? How many and how does it compare with other countries?
    Here's the only stats I could and they admitted there is no accurate records

    Congressional Record - Congress - Google Books

    But when you google dumpster baby deaths, you get this.

    https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp...iw=976&bih=613

    1,460,000 hits...albeit many may be duplicates. The stats for foreign nations I couldn't locate.

    What does it matter? Women will get rid of pregnancies they are embarrassed by or afraid to have even after giving birth.

    Wouldn't a medical abortion be a better solution for both the woman and the fetus?
    Alex Carey:

    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Since 1980, abortions have been hard to get. Between insurance denials, Medicaid denials, etc. there are not around.

    More women turn to crack doctors and are dying in this nation. This blood in on the hands of those decrying the rights of women to a safe medical abortion.

    Pennsylvania Employees Fired In Wake Of Abortion Scandal : NPR
    This is a case of one demented doctor and em[ployees of the state not doing their jobs.. Do you have any evidence that this is a trend?



    Under Roe V Wade, legitimate abortion clinics had the law they had to follow. No live birth would have been terminated. These are the results of the radical right wing religious cult that calls to end the rights of women and force them into desperate situations. Almost forget, since the murdering of doctors who perform abortions, the bombing of clinics, the availability of an abortion has decreased, as well.
    Do you have any evidence to support these claims?

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Here's the only stats I could and they admitted there is no accurate records
    1,460,000 hits...albeit many may be duplicates. The stats for foreign nations I couldn't locate.
    No, you don't know. No one does. So why did you say that "US being one with a great deal of dumpster babies found each year"?

    What does it matter?
    Is this Hillary Clinton? What people say and do matters.

    Women will get rid of pregnancies they are embarrassed by or afraid to have even after giving birth.
    That doesn't say much for 'women'.

    Wouldn't a medical abortion be a better solution for both the woman and the fetus?
    How would that be good for the fetus?

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    This is a case of one demented doctor and em[ployees of the state not doing their jobs.. Do you have any evidence that this is a trend?





    Do you have any evidence to support these claims?
    To the first, no. So this one woman was just not that important and we'll go ahead and allow it because, well, we dont think a death of one woman is important.

    The evidence of the claims of what? That Roe V Wade is clear when an abortion may occur with a woman's decision only versus with her doctor, or that right wing nuts bombed abortion clinics and murdered doctors who performed abortions?
    Alex Carey:

    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    They also wanted to get me to try dog, but I told them upfront that unless I was starving, I wouldn't even think about eating one.................
    Yeah well I don't believe that story either. You're just full of it.

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