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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    ask the question.

    why are governments created?

    to secure the rights of men, "because without government there is no freedom", because Everyone must be on guard for their life.

    "That to secure these rights, ------>Governments are instituted among Men"

    "if men were angels no government would be necessary"

    this is what the founders are saying..we have government to see that people are protected, from those who would seek enslave others.

    does not governments act, when someone is killed by another....yes its fulfilling it role..to protect.
    Your question is not an answer

    You have said that the only powers the govt has are those enumerated in the constitution.

    So where does the constitution say that the govt has the power and the duty to protect all human life?
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    life of those who have not committed any transgression.
    Women then. Thanks. Because the other is not a life. It's a pregnancy.
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    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Well, it certainly isn't stated in the constitution
    you need to read more....

    if government did not protect life ,we would have anarchy....lawlessness

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Women then. Thanks. Because the other is not a life. It's a pregnancy.
    that is ONLY what you think, but others think differently then you.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    you need to read more....
    Since you've read so much, you should be able to quote where the constitution says the govt has the power to protect all human life
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    life of those who have not committed any transgression.
    We all die, regardless of our "sins", it's the way of the world and there is no escaping it..................

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Your question is not an answer

    You have said that the only powers the govt has are those enumerated in the constitution.

    So where does the constitution say that the govt has the power and the duty to protect all human life?
    Amendment IV

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons<----------, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    The whole "problem" of abortion is only a "problem" of the Abrahamic religions............Left unbadgered, most humans could care less..................
    Good evening, Bonz.

    Are you referring to the "multiply and be fruitful" thing? How do other countries handle abortion?

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    that is ONLY what you think, but others think differently then you.
    Of course. They also believe the earth is 6,000 years old and that man ran with dinosaurs. Doesn't make them right. Just makes them think differently.

    There is NO brain stem attached to a fetus in the first trimester. This means the fetus is a vegetable, not able to sustain itself outside an umbilical cord. THIS means there is no LIFE in the abortion a woman can perform under Roe v Wade without consent from a doctor.
    Alex Carey:

    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    Amendment IV

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons<----------, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


    Again, the rights for human life is for the woman in the pregnancy equation. SHE has houses, papers, and effects
    Alex Carey:

    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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