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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    The SCOTUS isn't in a position to be making those judgments either. They're lawyers not God.

    To make matters even worse the Fourteenth Amendment completely contradicts everything the SCOTUS spews on just about every ruling.
    Your examples?
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    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    really, so your staying government has no duty to protect life.................you must be in favor of the power of the President to kill people then.

    the duty of the government is to secure the rights of the people, ....do you not have a right to live................or can anyone treat you like garage , and just kill you without any crime happening.

    if you don't understand the basics, of america government..........grab a book and read..........because the right to life, is a basic concept.

    and you have made me very sad, .......for posing that question.....
    You are the one who claims the only powers the govt has are those enumerated in the constitution, not me

    Yet, you are all too happy to claim that the govt has powers that are not enumerated in the constitution, demostrating that even you don't believe the crap your spew.

    So where does the constitution say that the govt has the power and the duty to protect all human life?
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    It's blatantly illegal....

    How can a congress pass a law, the president signs it and then it's overturned by a bunch of arbitrators?

    Why bother even having a president?

    Why not just have a "spokesman" and then let the SCOTUS be the final judge when it comes to legislation - all 9 of them. Let 9 people dictate the US...

    The SCOTUS violates the democratic republic process in so many ways it makes the founding principals of this nation a joke to what it is supposed to be.
    Most presidents have a department of justice staff that helps make sure what they sign in law is constitutional. The states don't have that, so they can write whatever they want and then it gets challenged as many of the abortion laws are being and have been challenged and overturned.

    The SCOTUS was set up BY the founding fathers to have a check and balance on the constitution. Just because you don't like the decisions, does not mean the idea of a court to keep Congress and the President legal is a bad idea.
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    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    The government enforcing the wishes of Jesus Christ IS Big Brother.............................
    who said it was Jesus Christ.

    do you believe you can just go out and kill, anyone, ...taking their life.

    if you follow those who believe that the unborn is.. life.........then it is illegal to take it.......

    their are plenty of libertarians who don't believe in Jesus, but just......respect and hold life dear.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    If you think the SCOTUS is so damn great then go learn some Latin.

    You think those nuts sound so sophisticated when the talk their junk in Latin? Most of the time what they're saying in Latin translates into stupid **** like: "A man dropped a rock on my foot therefore I can drop a turtle on his head" and they use that nonsense as a formal analogy.

    We let massive idiots control this country.

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    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    who said it was Jesus Christ.
    Well, it certainly isn't stated in the constitution
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    who said it was Jesus Christ.

    do you believe you can just go out and kill, anyone, ...taking their life.

    if you follow those who believe that the unborn is.. life.........then it is illegal to take it.......

    their are plenty of libertarians who don't believe in Jesus, but just......respect and hold life dear.
    Whose life?
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    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    who said it was Jesus Christ.

    do you believe you can just go out and kill, anyone, ...taking their life.

    if you follow those who believe that the unborn is.. life.........then it is illegal to take it.......

    their are plenty of libertarians who don't believe in Jesus, but just......respect and hold life dear.
    The whole "problem" of abortion is only a "problem" of the Abrahamic religions............Left unbadgered, most humans could care less..................

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You are the one who claims the only powers the govt has are those enumerated in the constitution, not me

    Yet, you are all too happy to claim that the govt has powers that are not enumerated in the constitution, demostrating that even you don't believe the crap your spew.

    So where does the constitution say that the govt has the power and the duty to protect all human life?
    ask the question.

    why are governments created?

    to secure the rights of men, "because without government there is no freedom", because Everyone must be on guard for their life.

    "That to secure these rights, ------>Governments are instituted among Men"

    "if men were angels no government would be necessary"

    this is what the founders are saying..we have government to see that people are protected, from those who would seek enslave others.

    does not governments act, when someone is killed by another....yes its fulfilling it role..to protect.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    Whose life?
    life of those who have not committed any transgression.

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