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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    You've come full circle from stating that individuals have no control to asking about a controlling authority? It's little wonder why I usually ignore your posts...
    And you have never left your position of making crap up

    I haven't said anything about any controlling authority

    I asked you a simple question. Where does the constitution say that any govt has the power to regulate or ban abortion?

    And when you claim to be ignoring my posts, you are once again making crap up. This thread has dozens of examples of you not ignoring my posts
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    No, you were asked a simple question. If you choose not to answer, I'll understand...
    No, *you* were asked a simple question:

    Where does the constitution say that govt at any level has the power to regulate or ban abortion?

    If you choose not to answer, I'll understand...
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    You either have a view on inherent rights or not. Muddying the waters doesn't help...
    I can only refer you to the UN.........................

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    I can only refer you to the UN.........................
    You can't express yourself?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    You can't express yourself?
    Cant you?

    Where does the constitution say that govt at any level has the power to regulate or ban abortion?
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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    You can't express yourself?
    No. I never can work up the nerve, haven't you noticed ?.....................

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    When will you stop refusing to answer one single question:

    Where does the constitution says the govt has the power to regulate or ban abortion?
    i ever POSED the question in the first place......so why are you PRESSING me for the answer?

    it comes down to :

    is government doing its primary duty by-----> protecting life?

    some say the unborn is life, ...........and others say it is not, and they believe the woman is the one to decide what to do.

    does the woman have the RIGHT, To do with her body IE. PROPERTY ,as she wants to, or can government control her, IE .property, and ban abortion?

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, that is true for the moment but medical knowledge continues to expand and there is no apparent reason why babies might be viable in less that 24, 20 or 16 weeks. Laws in these areas cannot be written in stone.
    There is a very long way to go before medical knowledge takes us to the point that an early pre-term baby can be put into the equivalent of a female body and then develop as fully as if it had stayed in the body of the mother. I agree laws may change when that day comes along but as a physical fact rather than a discussion of the US constitution - there are currently no biological arguments that would take away the need for a 24 week limit on abortion.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Where does the constitution say that govt at any level has the power to regulate or ban abortion?
    Specifically?
    It doesn't.

    Generally?
    The Commerce clause seems to be a catch all, so lets start there, as abortion is a medical procedure, and as such is commerce.
    And with girls crossing State lines to get abortions, and I wouldn't put it past them to try and argue it, so lets start there.
    Or how about under the authority of the Constitution to tax, as we all have seen how well that works as an argument.


    Me? I think Arkansas Republicans have stepped over the line.
    But then again, that is just me.
    Last edited by Excon; 03-09-13 at 04:47 AM.

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    re: Arkansas to ban abortion at 12 weeks, earliest in nation [W:1036:1154]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
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    does the woman have the RIGHT, To do with her body IE. PROPERTY ,as she wants to, or can government control her, IE .property, and ban abortion?
    As I said before...the woman has a right to privacy. Women have to right to control reproductivity. It really is not about PROPERTY.
    It is not about her owning her body.
    I think that is where your confusion lies.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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